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    Laerune's Avatar
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    Personaly, I am tired of the mage like healer. The next healer class should be different, like maybe use TP and MP and if possible, not wear robes. Maybe the next healer will get healing power from a stat like dex?
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    Khalith Mateo
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    Sword based dps and maces are quite underrepresented overall.
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Well Red Mage is know for being able to double cast the same skill at once so why not give it a mechanic that allows Red Mage healer to double the healing potency resulting in using 2 of the same healing skills for 1 cast and 1 skill cost.

    That way Red mage becomes the Burst healer type Job.
    I would love to see double cast be a major thing for RDM. Personally i kinda would like to preserve the melee thing, whether its a healer or something else, for a healer it wouldnt be impossible just tricky much like all melee supports are instant cd, id see a majority of functioning heals as cd based(lustrate, indomitability, bene), which could either make it underwhelming, or op if not balanced perfectly. i guess it could have a staff and stand back and cast, it just would make me frown.
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    There already is a sword-ish DPS. Rogue. Sure, they're rather short swords, but still, sharp bladed thingies!

    Seriously though, I'd like to ask... do we REALLY need yet another DPS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urthdigger View Post
    There already is a sword-ish DPS. Rogue. Sure, they're rather short swords, but still, sharp bladed thingies!

    Seriously though, I'd like to ask... do we REALLY need yet another DPS?
    Allrounder here, so I dont mind whichever role we are going to get. But if SE were to only add 1 class, which role do you think this class will have? SE has shown so far that they will cater to the majority. We know that DPS players outnumber the Tank and Healer by alot. I doubt SE would release one class for the tanks or healer. Knowing SE they want make sure that majority of the playerbase plays their new class, otherwise it would be a waste of resources and time.

    On the tank forum there used to be a thread about how effective the Dark Knight was in converting DPS and Healers to play a Tank. The reponds show that majority of the Dark Knight who play the class as their main, were already maining a Paladin or Warrior. A small group converted into a Tank, but the rest leveled the class and benched it.

    So to answer your question with a another question, do we need really a new Tank or a Healer class aswell?
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    Ekhi Ysengrim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    Personaly, I am tired of the mage like healer. The next healer class should be different, like maybe use TP and MP and if possible, not wear robes. Maybe the next healer will get healing power from a stat like dex?
    I've heard rumors about Dancer and they most likely be Dex based and might use TP. And I would love a healer class that uses TP, since I usually end up Goading them anyway.
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    Katana Azurite
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    So to answer your question with a another question, do we need really a new Tank or a Healer class aswell?
    Yes... having 3 tanks and 3 healers is quite... rubbish, I can deal with it til 4.0. Just look at the current meta, every group I've seen runs a WAR and SCH. Now look at the DPS side, its quite flexible.. sure there's a meta with the likes of MCH and NIN, but I've seen many groups run without these 2 jobs as well. I can't speak for Tanks and Healers, I haven't seen a single group without those 2 jobs, I'm sure there out there, but very few I can tell you. Creating 4 tanks and 4 healers MIGHT break needing these 2 essential jobs.

    I can see where your coming from though, they'll always be more DPS then tanks and healers and people using the argument saying "Do we need any more DPS?" is quite silly, there are 4 DPS in raid groups, and more DPS players overall. Its much easier to balance DPS then Tanks and Healers. But I can't take your quote seriously UNTIL 4.0 where we have 4 tanks and healers. Sorry to go off topic here.

    On Topic: I personally would like to see SAM Tank and RDM DPS using a Sword or Rapier of the likes, would satisfy both sides. Just my opinion though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoroushSensei View Post
    why are all sword classes tanks. i think we need a sword dps class that will use a rapier
    Samurai, but with Katana

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Well Red Mage is know for being able to double cast the same skill at once so why not give it a mechanic that allows Red Mage healer to double the healing potency resulting in using 2 of the same healing skills for 1 cast and 1 skill cost.

    That way Red mage becomes the Burst healer type Job.
    I hope Red Mage will be a melee caster.
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    Last edited by Felis; 05-22-2016 at 07:45 AM.

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    Feli Aiko
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    If they introduce SAM, then chances are it's going to be that sword DPS. Funny enough, this would further solidify WAR's spot thanks to SE, unless SAM got their own debuff and it wasn't a major DPS loss for them to maintain it compared to NIN.
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    Aurora Aura
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Well Red Mage is know for being able to double cast the same skill at once so why not give it a mechanic that allows Red Mage healer to double the healing potency resulting in using 2 of the same healing skills for 1 cast and 1 skill cost.

    That way Red mage becomes the Burst healer type Job.
    Or we can give RDM Double and Triple, skills that are already in the Game, and then be done with it

    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    So to answer your question with a another question, do we need really a new Tank or a Healer class aswell?
    Depends, are you fine with ALL the queues being just as bad as PVP queues. Because that;s what gonna happen if they release just DPS classes.
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    Last edited by Morningstar1337; 05-22-2016 at 08:25 AM.

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