we need a sword dps

[Sicno]

I think the whole idea of locking classes to a kind of weapon and changing classes via equipping weapons was super short sighted. In the long run that limits what kinds of classic jobs they can use without heavy transformations. Now any new sword-wielding job needs to have some special kind of sword, like DRK's greatswords or samurai's katanas. Would have been better if they sticked with soulstones since the very beginning.

[Khaoticsuccubus]

What would make it differ from Dragoon then? Other than not Jumping.

Assuming you're referring to their weapons, the main difference would be that dragoon's weapon is meant for piercing attacks; while the naginata, iirc, is primarily a slashing weapon. Which would fit well with samurai type techniques.

[Gabrielleblanc]

Assuming you're referring to their weapons, the main difference would be that dragoon's weapon is meant for piercing attacks; while the naginata, iirc, is primarily a slashing weapon. Which would fit well with samurai type techniques.

Referring mostly to play style and aesthetics. It would share most if not all of the same animations as DRG. Not to mention the fact that DRG was given a Naginata already.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/5c0e580aff5/

[Khaoticsuccubus]

Referring mostly to play style and aesthetics. It would share most if not all of the same animations as DRG. Not to mention the fact that DRG was given a Naginata already.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/5c0e580aff5/

Not at all. There are plenty of unique animations they could use for the naginata. While some of Dragoon's animations sweep their spear in a wide arc, the vast majority forcus on frontal piercing stabs.

Also, this wouldn't be the first time they've had to retcon a weapon out of the game for a new class ;P

Paladins used to use "daggers" from time to time before rogue/ninja came out. Which was when they changed their name and replaced them with a new model of an actual sword.

[Gabrielleblanc]

Not at all. There are plenty of unique animations they could use for the naginata. While some of Dragoon's animations sweep their spear in a wide arc, the vast majority forcus on frontal piercing stabs.

Also, this wouldn't be the first time they've had to retcon a weapon out of the game for a new class ;P

Paladins used to use "daggers" from time to time before rogue/ninja came out. Which was when they changed their name and replaced them with a new model of an actual sword.

The difference there is its daggers splitting from paladins not swords, this is pulling a polearm from a class that uses polearms to make another class that uses polearms. Is it possible that Samurai will also use polearms? Yes, likely? Not so much, especially because most people associate Samurai with Katanas.

[Shippuu]

I think the whole idea of locking classes to a kind of weapon and changing classes via equipping weapons was super short sighted. In the long run that limits what kinds of classic jobs they can use without heavy transformations. Now any new sword-wielding job needs to have some special kind of sword, like DRK's greatswords or samurai's katanas. Would have been better if they sticked with soulstones since the very beginning.

This isn't particularly a problem with samurai specifically as Katana have always been classed as their own kind of weapon in Final Fantasy games.

But even then I don't think thats really much of an issue. We have multiple classifications of existing weapons that are very similar, blm/WHM weapons and sch/smn books. It's all just back end coding that makes the difference.

[Khaoticsuccubus]

The difference there is its daggers splitting from paladins not swords, this is pulling a polearm from a class that uses polearms to make another class that uses polearms. Is it possible that Samurai will also use polearms? Yes, likely? Not so much, especially because most people associate Samurai with Katanas.

Addendum... most people in the West associate Samurai solely with katana. ;P

I'm still betting on our ffxi friend becoming the samurai trainer... and she used a naginata.

There are still many types of polearms and the dragoon style does not befit the use a good portion of them. Lumping all polearm-esque weapons under dragoons piercing style is actually doing them a disservice really.

It's like when rdm comes out and uses a rapier. A rapier is technically a sword but, you can't just say their techniques would be the same as a paladins as they use a completely different style of combat. Slash vs piercing again.

[Gabrielleblanc]

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While I agree that it is a disservice, chances are due to the past uses of samurai in every ff game using them, it will be Katana based, personally I am hoping they take the tactics route and allow you to draw the spirit out but thats just me. As for RDM its going to be awkward due to the Gladiator description of "Uses all swords" and them then not being able to use rapiers.

[AlphaFox]

While I agree that it is a disservice, chances are due to the past uses of samurai in every ff game using them, it will be Katana based, personally I am hoping they take the tactics route and allow you to draw the spirit out but thats just me. As for RDM its going to be awkward due to the Gladiator description of "Uses all swords" and them then not being able to use rapiers.

To be fair rapiers are more about parrying and stabbing, not slashing like a Paladin. So that style of sword would not suit them.

[Gabrielleblanc]

To be fair rapiers are more about parrying and stabbing, not slashing like a Paladin. So that style of sword would not suit them.

True, except it doesn't say anything about slashing weapons it just says swords. Though I do agree, seeing paladins with rapiers would be silly.

Feel like I should add, RDM is the one class I am most excited for, though if it is a healer I just quit.