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    I can get on board with this with a few exceptions - things like ifrit ex and alexander 4 - how would you make a melee healer work in those situations? I guess all their heals would have to be wide ranged. For the argument about dps not being able to heal, i mean if we were to make it a caster that relies on int as its damage stat, cleric stance would make some of the "useless cross class heals" somewhat akin to eos's embrace, nice spotty support heal. Honestly i can see dps or healer working better than a tank at this point, it could go either way and still have the elements to make it feel like its a melee caster that damages and supports/heals. I can also see the tank argument if you mix it with Mystic knight/Rune Fencer but i have to admit id rather have both implemented and would really like to see the tank slot filled later on with Mystic Knight. I'd also have to agree as id like SAM to be close to drg in gear as a dps, that it does seem much better suited to fending type heavy armor - And could fit the tank role a bit better without sacrificing too much of its identity
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
    I can get on board with this with a few exceptions - things like ifrit ex and alexander 4 - how would you make a melee healer work in those situations? I guess all their heals would have to be wide ranged.
    Their heals would be the usual range but their dps would be melee. They could perhaps be able to dps without Cleric Stance since they would have the melee range requirement to limit them. Or have their dps radiate miniscule healing on nearby targets (tanks) kind of how the fairy can still heal while a Scholar does dps. Obviously some bosses would allow them to dps very little in certain phases but if they had a stun or something they could be more useful on other bosses.

    I agree Red Mage would not suit being a tank very well. A healing tank - Paladin, a magic tank - Dark Knight, and a dps'ing tank - Warrior, have already been taken and there are no more role mixing possibilities for Red Mage to take in the tank department.
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    I would really love to see dancer get implemented in this game somehow myself, i seen some ideas that were really good that were posted how it could work, healer seems to fit pretty nicely, for kicks id love to see a charm debuff(confuse) that would be hilarious in pvp
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoroushSensei View Post
    why are all sword classes tanks. i think we need a sword dps class that will use a rapier
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    I think the whole idea of locking classes to a kind of weapon and changing classes via equipping weapons was super short sighted. In the long run that limits what kinds of classic jobs they can use without heavy transformations. Now any new sword-wielding job needs to have some special kind of sword, like DRK's greatswords or samurai's katanas. Would have been better if they sticked with soulstones since the very beginning.
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    Naoki Yoshida:
    ...Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.
    Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/113554 at 1:14:22

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicno View Post
    I think the whole idea of locking classes to a kind of weapon and changing classes via equipping weapons was super short sighted. In the long run that limits what kinds of classic jobs they can use without heavy transformations. Now any new sword-wielding job needs to have some special kind of sword, like DRK's greatswords or samurai's katanas. Would have been better if they sticked with soulstones since the very beginning.
    This isn't particularly a problem with samurai specifically as Katana have always been classed as their own kind of weapon in Final Fantasy games.

    But even then I don't think thats really much of an issue. We have multiple classifications of existing weapons that are very similar, blm/WHM weapons and sch/smn books. It's all just back end coding that makes the difference.
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    I have a few thoughts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignis_kline View Post
    I have a few thoughts.
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    what would happen if they decided to give us 2 different jobs entirely and just rhrew the names out in the rising event to get us all excited then bam, we get jobs we didnt expect like mch lol
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    Last edited by ADVSS; 05-25-2016 at 12:18 AM.

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    Back on first page where they can see how many want Samurai DPS job.
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