A complete map of Hydaelyn

[Anonymoose]

I still find it weird the Astrologians still use Dalamud in their readings even though its not even there anymore and they now know it was artificial. How exactly does that work?

While Sharlayan astrology has been around for a long time, the fall of Dalamud is a fairly recent event, and astrologians are still undecided as how to treat the phenomenon. Because of this, the location of the body (had it still been there) is still used in readings, with some Sharlayan school astrologians spinning it that the "absence" of the moon is now the driving force in predicting an individual's fate. The fact that Jannequinard has very few ties with the astrologians in Sharlayan leaves him somewhat in the dark as to how others in his field are conducting new types of post-Meteor readings.

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[Nici]

On one hand, as Enkidoh said, the team is better off not making any commitments that can't be modified and polished a bit as that content comes out. They know at least the rough idea; hell, we know the rough idea. We just don't know latitudes and coastlines, which will be fleshed out more as region maps are made for where ever we head next.

On the other hand, though, it also kinda messes with the spirit of the world lore a bit to release the full maps too soon. A map arrives precisely when it means to.

I always wondered why we didn't have a Globe furnishing of Hydaelyn...something akin to the Model Star Globe furnishing, but moose made a good point why.

[myahele]

This is the closest to a complete map as we'll see for the the time being


But yeah, as other's have said realistically the devs just have not planned that far in yet and would like room to make additions once they get to that point. But when it comes to in-game lore then I'd imagine the Garleans have a rough map of the lands they've occupied + the Eorzean map. Most likely the Allagans have a complete world map since they conquered it all.

[Zetsumei_Tsunarashi]

This is the closest to a complete map as we'll see for the the time being

That's a fairly decent map, anyone care to attempt to roughly label it ?

[Anonymoose]

That's a fairly decent map

It's the texture file that's wrapped around the planet as seen from the moon, however we know we can't trust it 100%. Also keep in mind that it's about 50% of the planet's surface - the side of the orb visible from the moon (which is mostly obscured by clouds and shadows). The other half of the planet (which I presume is Othard, a lot of ocean, and probably more islands) is terra incognita (but probably looks a bit like Asia). I tried to label it a while back:

Looking back on it now, that probably is Meracydia and the New World, probably is not Sharlayan, and still might be Thavnair. But, again, devs have commented that this might be laid out right-ish, but might not be 100% trustworthy. For starters, look at Vylbrand on the texture file; it (and Aldenard) were clearly traced directly from the Ironheart map, down to the smoke of Mount O'Ghomoro ... except the shape of the smoke appears to have been colored the same color as the landmasses, as if they were islands off the northern coast. How close are the coastlines of other continents? Time will tell! Ilsabard seems roughly as-intended, at least.

[Ceasaria]

New World = Ivalice

[Hinoto-no-Ryuji]

New World = Ivalice

While I know that comment was probably just wishful thinking, Dalmasca (and possbily Rabanastre) is somewhere on Othard, as per this interview with Koji Fox. That makes Doma's home continent a likely source of further Ivalice shoutouts, should we ever go there. Although, considering the Doma of FFVI wasn't especially Japan-inspired, I imagine any locations that use names from FFXII will be an in-name-only sorta deal.

As for the New World...all we really know about it is that the Mamool Ja come from there. I'm actually surprised the Garleans don't have a presence there, now that I think about it; I wonder what's stopping them from circling around from Eastern Othard? Military spread too thin across their other two continents, maybe?

[Enkidoh]

Well, reading that article Ferne seemed to be talking somewhat tongue-in-cheek, so I'm liable to not fully regard that as 'canon'.... yet! (please prove me wrong!).

And even if it was canon, it would still be just like Costa del Sol, Gold Saucer and the Crystal Tower all just being references in name only and not the actual places from their respective FF games - the development team all but shouted this a long time ago during a Letter From the Producer LIVE that Hydaelyn is it's own unique, independent world that is not connected to any other FF world, although it has places that are name references to other FF games for fanservice:

Q55: There are a lot of names from Ivalice such as Dalmasca, Belias, and Zodiak that have been mentioned, is there some connection between Hydaelyn and Ivalice?

A55: To be absolutely clear, there is no connection between FFXIV’s Hydaelyn and FFXII’s Ivalice. Likewise there is no connection with FFXI’s Vana’diel. Each are their own individual world. Based on this, there are connections between the things that appear in the world, and we’ll be revealing more in the future.

1:57:29
Q: A lot of names from Ivalice have been mentioned such as Dalmasca, Belias, and Zodiak. Is there some kind of connection between Hydaelyn and Ivalice?
A: Maehiro: To be absolutely clear, there is no direct connection between FFXIV’s Hydaelyn and FFXII’s Ivalice or even FFXI’s Vana’diel. They are not the same world in different dimensions or time—they are their own separate worlds. However, there are certain connections to people or objects that appear in these other worlds that figure into the story of FFXIV as it has been conceived and is being told.

Yoshida: We’ll be revealing more as we move forward.

So yeah, although there might be a place named 'Rabanastre' or 'Dalmasca' in Hydaelyn, it's not the FFXII ones, and that also means that the mysterious 'far western continent' (the one the mamool'jaa come from) is not Ivalice or Vana'diel too for that matter. But as they said, we'll see more in the future as the narrative takes us outside Eorzea into the wider world.

[SuperFlorinjin]

As for the New World...all we really know about it is that the Mamool Ja come from there. I'm actually surprised the Garleans don't have a presence there, now that I think about it; I wonder what's stopping them from circling around from Eastern Othard? Military spread too thin across their other two continents, maybe?

Probably. As I recall most of the Garlean troops you run into in Eorzea are actually conscripts from Ala Mhigo and other imperial conquests. Given that most of those conquests are fairly recent, and thus unlikely to be very loyal to the Empire they can't really afford to spread themselves too thin or they'll start seeing multiple rebellions. Not to mention the logistics of sending an army that far.

[seekified]

Probably. As I recall most of the Garlean troops you run into in Eorzea are actually conscripts from Ala Mhigo and other imperial conquests. Given that most of those conquests are fairly recent, and thus unlikely to be very loyal to the Empire they can't really afford to spread themselves too thin or they'll start seeing multiple rebellions. Not to mention the logistics of sending an army that far.

Agreed. Securing Eorzea is likely a step in that plan, though - Vylbrand would be an excellent staging area for any voyage further west.