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  1. #1
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    FoxyAreku's Avatar
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Macros are actually inefficient and it's better to not use them in every aspect of the game. Really just a tool for you to be lazy, but they cause lag and make things take longer, and if you use them on battle jobs they will cause you to miss several GCDs in the long run. You can get away with it on crafting jobs if you're geared enough, but it's always more efficient to do it by hand.

    So no, not necessary, and actually better if you don't use them at all.
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    Jamillion's Avatar
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    Calypso Celeste
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Macros are actually inefficient and it's better to not use them in every aspect of the game. Really just a tool for you to be lazy, but they cause lag and make things take longer, and if you use them on battle jobs they will cause you to miss several GCDs in the long run. You can get away with it on crafting jobs if you're geared enough, but it's always more efficient to do it by hand.

    So no, not necessary, and actually better if you don't use them at all.
    I think you're underestimating macros. Not saying they're essential or anything but there are a ton of useful macros you can create. Text macros to announce mechanics without voice chat, macros to disable b4b or regen, hunt macros, gearset/sorting macros, the list goes on and on.

    To the OP, macros are not essential to enjoying the game but you should experiment with them to see if anything you can do would be enriched with them.
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    L'yuuyami Oschon
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    Alchemist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Macros are actually inefficient and it's better to not use them in every aspect of the game. Really just a tool for you to be lazy, but they cause lag and make things take longer, and if you use them on battle jobs they will cause you to miss several GCDs in the long run. You can get away with it on crafting jobs if you're geared enough, but it's always more efficient to do it by hand.

    So no, not necessary, and actually better if you don't use them at all.
    Good luck HQ-ing 8000 materials (at minimal) in one shot without going crazy.

    Jab aside.

    I use macros while I craft so I can multitask.
    Set up a multi-part craft macro, add some sound effect to alert me when each part is done, so that I can multitask, like browsing the internet or watching videos or doing my work at the office while pressing the button to HQ certain common materials, and basically most of the food items.
    Basically I just go:-
    Press Part 1 Button > wait for sound, or just wait until I'm free again > Press Part 2 button > wait for sound > etc > rinse and repeat, while at the same time multitasking with other stuff.


    Obviously, for serious hi-quali crafts, better do it manually.


    Point Being: Macros can be very useful depending on situation, just probably a lot less for combat classes.
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    Last edited by Mithrahn; 05-21-2016 at 12:23 AM. Reason: characterlimit

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    Boris Taglia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    Text macros tend to make me do the exact opposite of what the macro says.
    I'll go out of my way to not despell any WAR who spams the chat and my ears with his annoying sound-based macro about his buff ending and needing despell soon.
    I 100% agree with this. I just take the macro as the WAR reminding themselves of how long they have until they can sit on their thumbs for 5 seconds.
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    Oni On
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by BorisDaBlade View Post
    I 100% agree with this. I just take the macro as the WAR reminding themselves of how long they have until they can sit on their thumbs for 5 seconds.
    This is horrendous. Literally one of worst things I've ever read on this forum.

    When I heal, I expect WARs to have a macro for Berserk that gives me a heads up for the esuna. My favorite Berserk macro I've seen is one with a 19s delay, and it's simple the word "esuna" with a sound effect in chat. I hear the noise, and I cast esuna; now the WAR doesn't have to sit with pacify for any amount of time.

    Furthermore, when I tank as WAR, I don't expect every call for a pacify cleanse to be answered. I understand that there might very well be something more important than casting esuna on my healer's to do list. I put it out there anyway, because if they have the time to cleanse, they should want to cleanse it.
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    Karis Angara
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destous View Post
    Furthermore, when I tank as WAR, I don't expect every call for a pacify cleanse to be answered. I understand that there might very well be something more important than casting esuna on my healer's to do list. I put it out there anyway, because if they have the time to cleanse, they should want to cleanse it.
    This has been a touchy subject for such a long time. When I play WAR, I want my Pacification to get cleansed as much as anyone, but I feel a little obnoxious if I use a macro directly asking for it with a sound effect. On the other hand, when I play SCH (which I do quite a bit), I always look for Pacification and remove it as soon as possible.

    More on topic regarding the necessity of macros - no, I don't think they're required as such, not for any job. But they certainly make my life a lot easier. As SCH, I have macros that summons Eos/Selene, sets the relevant fairy's skills to my crossbar (so I need three less slots) and sets the fairy to Obey. As WAR, I have stance macros that activate Defiance/Deliverence and swap out the relevant skills on my crossbar (again, to reduce button bloat).

    I also use callout macros a fair bit for trials and raids, like Bismarck's dragonkillers and debuff color change, or to balance DPS on T11's cube/orb adds, etc.

    Not necessary, but certainly helps a lot.
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    Last edited by seekified; 06-01-2016 at 09:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seekified View Post
    This has been a touchy subject for such a long time.
    I don't see why anyone would be touchy about it. How narcissistic would a WHM have to be to take offense at a sound alert macro that gives them a heads up on berserk pacify? WARs getting butthurt over not getting a cleanse is a different story, but a simple alert macro is helpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destous View Post
    I don't see why anyone would be touchy about it. How narcissistic would a WHM have to be to take offense at a sound alert macro that gives them a heads up on berserk pacify? WARs getting butthurt over not getting a cleanse is a different story, but a simple alert macro is helpful.
    You shouldn't be stopping what you're doing to esuna a pacification. That's the main reason.
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    King Canadane
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    Text macros are just as bad as regular macros. Even if all you're doing is using a single oGCD ability, it still won't queue, it suffers from the possibility of being ignored due to lag.
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    Alayna Lazriel
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    Quote Originally Posted by BorisDaBlade View Post
    I 100% agree with this. I just take the macro as the WAR reminding themselves of how long they have until they can sit on their thumbs for 5 seconds.
    I don't understand this. First, let me say I'm not a warrior and it's the only job I haven't leveled. Only at 15 so I'm not defending anything, but how is that acceptable? If you are purposely going out of your way to not do your job, that makes you the worst type of player because you're being bad by choice. It's a game and ppl have different play styles. You don't have to like them all. Some tanks mark mobs, and some don't. Well I don't need marks as a dps because I know which target the tank is attacking, so I guess its ok to then just purposely attack the mob marked 3 instead of 1 just because he annoyed annoyed me because I don't like to be told which mob to attack. That's just plain ignorant.
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