Is ninja dps starting to fall behind?

[DarkerOrange]

My Raiton clips by less than 0.2 secs (average of 0.18), so it is better for me to raiton in almost all situations. The exception to this is my opener in A7S, cos of the movement round the boss Fuma works better.

[JackFross]

Okay. Base GCD for NIN is 2.12. A delay of 0.18 would be 2.30.

Fuma Shuriken is 240 x 1.1 x 1.2 = 316.8 base potency (slashing debuff + poison)
Raiton is 360 = 360 base potency

316.8 / 2.12 = 149.4 pps
360 / 2.30 = 156.5

So it looks pretty good. However, if you're running with a Machinist, Hypercharge is up occasionally, which boosts that 149.4 pps to 164.4, a rather substantial gain over using Raiton during said Hypercharge. Even with Kassatsu, your Kassatsu Fuma would beat out your Kassatsu Raiton with Hypercharge in play, assuming you remembered your poison and Dancing Edge / Storm's Eye is active. I dunno what your SKS is, though, where you're seeing a 0.18s delay, but the gap between Hypercharge Fuma and Raiton only gets larger the more SKS over 354 you have, keeping the 0.18 delay constant.

Unless I'm missing something...? In which case, enlighten me, please. D:

Trying to figure out pointers for my static NIN who's trying to improve.

[DarkerOrange]

Yea, looks like with hypercharge fuma pulls ahead. I guess I will start using fuma when our MCH has that up. You learn something new everyday about to do A7S for the week, so I shall give it a try.

[DarkerOrange]

Pulled 1734 dps using mostly fuma (only using raiton with kassatsu + no hyper), so it certainly isn't any worse. I will retract my above statement

[whiteblade89]

I've been a NIN main for about a year now. And I would agree with all the comments about bad ninjas. It took me a long time to realize that I was a bad ninja at one time. (I'm not the best now, but Im much better than I was). But after learning the tricks of the utilities and mudras, I've found that most other ninjas tend to shirk on some abilities, the biggest one being DOTs. Or not using Suiton and TA (guilty of that at one time). The fact is that ninja is a great and fun class with awesome utilities. The issues lies in the players who don't reflect on their performance or try new things. It's easy to assume that you can shirk on mutilate if Fang is up. Or not applying DE when there's no warrior in the group. NIN requires a well rounded view of the class. But it's incredibly satisfying when you get the hang of it, and is still a great contender in the DPS class.

[Falar]

What about Raiton when you're in a party with a Bard running FOe's Requiem?

Since Hypercharge and Storm/DE are discussed.

[DawnTribal]

If Foe's Requiem is on you should switch to Raiton. Especially with the upcoming bard buffs with a shorter Battle Voice since you will get a stronger Foe's most of the time then.

[Alistaire]

If your latency allows, using raiton is always a dps gain over fuma. the only time you should be using fuma is if you have bad lag.

This is no longer true even with perfect lag (or rather, perfect lack of lag.) The #s don't add up for it anymore unless you have absolutely 0 sks in your set which isn't really possible at this time. Putting yourself behind even a fraction of a second every 20 seconds quickly adds up to lost gcds.