Is ninja dps starting to fall behind?

[Pinkie_Pie]

Feels like the other melee classes are scaling harder while nin falling behind just a tad. There are alot less ninja's around and more monks/drg's.

[Pinkie_Pie]

http://www.fflogs.com/rankings/10

Fflogs doesn't really prove anything due to the fact of some people could out gear another and skill of the group they are in :P

[Kitfox]

Fflogs doesn't really prove anything due to the fact of some people could out gear another and skill of the group they are in :P

Sure. Keep telling yourself that.

[LeeraSorlan]

Fflogs doesn't really prove anything due to the fact of some people could out gear another and skill of the group they are in :P

those are the top rating for savage, with people who play their classes to the maximum of potential, who most likely have mostly, if not fully, i240 gear all around

[garret_hawke]

I guess that's why dev buff nin are supposed to be buff in 3.3.

[Cetonis]

When you account for their raid contribution via Trick Attack they're in pretty good shape, roughly even with Monks. To the extent that they're behind on padded/gamed numbers, that's probably AoE related (Yorn Pigs and such). Both are behind Dragoons by that contributed damage measure, but this seems to be intentional.

[JackFross]

Ninja has the largest skill gap of the three melee. It's incredibly difficult (and dependent on connection speed) to be a very good Ninja. NINs can hold their own with the best DRGs and MNKs, it just takes a lot more skill than either other melee. There's far fewer GOOD Ninjas out there, because many people who play NIN fall victim to the same mentality that caused this thread to be made. When you THINK you can't match up to other melee, you're not going to.

[Jim_Berry]

Ninja has the largest skill gap of the three melee. It's incredibly difficult (and dependent on connection speed) to be a very good Ninja. NINs can hold their own with the best DRGs and MNKs, it just takes a lot more skill than either other melee. There's far fewer GOOD Ninjas out there, because many people who play NIN fall victim to the same mentality that caused this thread to be made. When you THINK you can't match up to other melee, you're not going to.

I fell victim to this. I am now beginning to watch and read guides and stuff. I used to learn my jobs off trial and error, but DRK was the first class I learned from other sources. I am NIN main, so there shouldn't be a reason why I shouldn't put my all into it.

[Mesoud]

Ninja has the largest skill gap of the three melee. It's incredibly difficult (and dependent on connection speed) to be a very good Ninja. There's far fewer GOOD Ninjas out there, because many people who play NIN fall victim to the same mentality that caused this thread to be made. When you THINK you can't match up to other melee, you're not going to.

I agree what's been said here on both accounts. I truly feel that being an excellent anything really depends on you being an excellent player. In the ninja's case, I've seen many people indeed stop trying to improve, which is could party be the reason why really good ninjas are not that easy to come by. And even then, for this class in particular, being decent is cinch, but being amazing is incredibly difficult considering how bottle-necked you become by ping which is more than any other class I feel (i.e. it's difficult to compare to ninjas at sub-50 ping with anything above that).