Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
My view point is that players should not be punished - forced to use PF - for playing the game optimally and wanting their team to do the same. Hopping in DF and expecting others to do your job is basically passive griefing.
Mmm I would disagree, PF is not a punishment. Anyone who expects anything other than "I am going to be put with an entirely random player" should probably use PF. That goes for those who want speed runs, and those who expect their hands to be held entirely. You don't get any special treatment just because you are highly concerned with your efficiency. On the other hand, nor do those who expect to be carried. When anybody uses DF they are signing up for the luck of the draw.

With your ideas I believe it would ultimately drive people away from the game because everyone would end up in these "serious mode" runs and nobody would be left to help the new players (both casual and hardcore) to clear the content they need. Because let's face it most people won't go into PF thinking "how can I help someone else" but they end up in DF with someone new and that new person gets the clear.

It really sounds like you just need to learn how to tolerate/respect people with different levels of skill than your own. If you replace your terms for "casual" and "efficient" with "colored" and "white" your ideas sound a whole lot like actual ideas that were used in the US in the 1950s.