Feedback Request on Network Delay

[animasyon]

Date & Time : 31.10.2011
Internet Service Provider : ttnet (Turkey)
Network Type and Speed : Adsl 8mps

C:\Users\Admin>tracert -h 50 traceip.ffxiv.com

Tracing route to traceip.ffxiv.com [202.67.52.81]
over a maximum of 50 hops:

1 5 ms 5 ms 2 ms 192.168.2.1
2 14 ms 14 ms 13 ms dsl88-250-61441.static.net.tr [88.250.240.1]
3 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms 81.212.78.101
4 19 ms 17 ms 22 ms 81.212.218.177
5 60 ms 62 ms 60 ms static.turktelekom.com.tr [212.156.101.61]
6 76 ms 98 ms 75 ms ffm-b10-link.telia.net [80.239.160.45]
7 82 ms 81 ms 82 ms ffm-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.251.123]
8 231 ms 241 ms 179 ms ash-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.246.60]
9 340 ms 238 ms 238 ms las-bb1-link.telia.net [213.248.80.8]
10 221 ms 222 ms 223 ms pacnet-ic-139806-las-bb1.c.telia.net [80.239.133
.98]
11 328 ms 329 ms 329 ms gi6-0-0.cr1.nrt1.asianetcom.net [202.147.61.166]

12 333 ms 331 ms 375 ms gi1-0-0.gw1.nrt5.asianetcom.net [202.147.0.178]

13 339 ms 340 ms 339 ms squareco.asianetcom.net [203.192.149.210]
14 357 ms 356 ms 356 ms 61.195.56.129
15 336 ms 336 ms 336 ms 219.117.144.2
16 333 ms 333 ms 335 ms 219.117.146.149
17 479 ms 330 ms 330 ms 219.117.146.129
18 342 ms 341 ms 343 ms 219.117.146.38
19 330 ms 330 ms 330 ms 202.67.52.81

Trace complete.

[Cyhlraw]

Date & Time: 31/10/2011 10:54 am
Internet Service Provider: ONO (Spain)
Network Type and Speed: Adsl 50MBps download / 5MBps upload

Tracing route to traceip.ffxiv.com [202.67.52.81]
over a maximum of 50 hops:

1 10 ms 7 ms 6 ms 10.113.128.1
2 16 ms 8 ms 7 ms 10.119.240.241
3 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms 10.119.240.101
4 15 ms 16 ms 13 ms 10.254.1.141
5 15 ms 20 ms 12 ms 10.254.2.117
6 39 ms 19 ms 12 ms 149.6.180.29
7 15 ms 15 ms 14 ms 154.54.56.241
8 23 ms 32 ms 22 ms 130.117.0.37
9 45 ms 37 ms 40 ms 154.54.56.158
10 110 ms 108 ms 110 ms 154.54.46.105
11 116 ms 116 ms 119 ms 154.54.5.73
12 149 ms 148 ms 148 ms 154.54.27.94
13 154 ms 146 ms 147 ms 154.54.2.246
14 185 ms 184 ms 183 ms 154.54.45.6
15 183 ms 189 ms 195 ms 154.54.3.10
16 220 ms 180 ms 181 ms 38.104.84.42
17 295 ms 295 ms 295 ms 202.147.61.170
18 297 ms 296 ms 295 ms 202.147.0.178
19 331 ms 433 ms 293 ms 203.192.149.210
20 308 ms 307 ms 307 ms 61.195.56.129
21 295 ms 296 ms 295 ms 219.117.144.2
22 309 ms 310 ms 315 ms 219.117.146.149
23 293 ms 322 ms 292 ms 219.117.146.129
24 299 ms 300 ms 303 ms 219.117.146.38
25 296 ms 300 ms 290 ms 202.67.52.81

Trace complete.

[totallynotme]

From Sweden, with problems on Ifrit.

31/10/2011 10:10PM GMT
ISP: Com Hem AB
100 (down) / 10 (up) Fiber

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. Med ensamrätt.

tracert -h 50 traceip.ffxiv.com

Tracing route to traceip.ffxiv.com [202.67.52.81]
over max. 50 jumps:

1 8 ms 10 ms 9 ms c83-253-168-1.bredband.comhem.se [83.253.168.1]

2 9 ms 10 ms 11 ms 83.255.242.242
3 16 ms 13 ms 13 ms nap-bb-r-02-to-ksn-bbr-1.comhem.se [83.255.252.6
]
4 15 ms 14 ms 13 ms 83.255.232.0
5 23 ms 24 ms 15 ms 10gigabitethernet1-2.core1.sto1.he.net [195.245.
240.187]
6 48 ms 49 ms 50 ms 10gigabitethernet3-3.core1.fra1.he.net [72.52.92
.233]
7 49 ms 47 ms 50 ms 10gigabitethernet1-4.core1.par2.he.net [184.105.
213.162]
8 127 ms 140 ms 127 ms 10gigabitethernet7-1.core1.ash1.he.net [184.105.
213.93]
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 201 ms 191 ms 188 ms 10gigabitethernet5-3.core1.lax1.he.net [72.52.92
.226]
11 199 ms 193 ms 191 ms pacnet.10gigabitethernet2-3.core1.lax1.he.net [2
16.218.223.206]
12 299 ms 297 ms 297 ms gi6-0-0.cr1.nrt1.asianetcom.net [202.147.61.166]
13 297 ms 297 ms 300 ms gi1-0-0.gw1.nrt5.asianetcom.net [202.147.0.178]
14 297 ms 297 ms 297 ms squareco.asianetcom.net [203.192.149.210]
15 314 ms 315 ms 314 ms 61.195.56.129
16 306 ms 306 ms 305 ms 219.117.144.2
17 308 ms 309 ms 319 ms 219.117.146.149
18 312 ms 306 ms 306 ms 219.117.146.129
19 390 ms 311 ms 406 ms 219.117.146.46
20 309 ms 313 ms 315 ms 202.67.52.81

Trace complete.

[HiirNoivl]

•October 31st 6:47 AM
•Broadband Cable from Insight
•10 Megabit LAN
•tracert Result*

Tracing route to traceip.ffxiv.com [202.67.52.81]
over a maximum of 50 hops:

1 5 ms 6 ms 11 ms 74-129-0-1.dhcp.insightbb.com [74.130.0.1]
2 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms 74-128-16-225.dhcp.insightbb.com [74.128.16.225]

3 104 ms 206 ms 211 ms 74.128.8.233
4 36 ms 34 ms 37 ms sl-gw25-atl-13-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.212.2
49]
5 36 ms 40 ms 37 ms sl-crs2-atl-0-5-3-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.22.1
3]
6 37 ms 36 ms 34 ms sl-crs4-atl-0-11-2-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.4.7
5]
7 38 ms 37 ms 40 ms sl-crs4-fw-0-3-0-2.sprintlink.net [144.232.18.14
9]
8 39 ms 38 ms 38 ms sl-crs2-fw-0-7-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.1.46]

9 71 ms 70 ms 72 ms sl-crs2-ria-0-0-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.8.15
4]
10 70 ms 71 ms 74 ms sl-crs2-ana-0-12-2-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.20.
158]
11 76 ms 71 ms 77 ms sl-st21-la-13-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.20.69]

12 67 ms 69 ms 71 ms sl-asian-19137-0.sprintlink.net [144.223.44.22]

13 167 ms 168 ms 170 ms gi8-0-0.cr1.nrt1.asianetcom.net [202.147.0.121]

14 166 ms 167 ms 170 ms gi1-0-0.gw1.nrt5.asianetcom.net [202.147.0.178]

15 166 ms 166 ms 167 ms squareco.asianetcom.net [203.192.149.210]
16 184 ms 182 ms 182 ms 61.195.56.129
17 162 ms 160 ms 159 ms 219.117.144.2
18 170 ms 169 ms 170 ms 219.117.146.149
19 173 ms 177 ms 172 ms 219.117.146.129
20 176 ms 171 ms 172 ms 219.117.146.46
21 174 ms 174 ms 172 ms 202.67.52.81

Trace complete.

[Rauru]

Date & Time: 10/31/2011 3:576 am PDT
Internet Service Provider: Liberty (Puerto Rico)
Network Type and Speed: 10mb Cable

tracert Result:
Tracing route to traceip.ffxiv.com [202.67.52.81]
over a maximum of 50 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms AngelSanctuary.cpe.libertypr.com [192.168.2.1]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms 10.1.1.49
4 7 ms 9 ms 8 ms 10.1.0.33
5 11 ms 8 ms 9 ms 10.1.0.1
6 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms 10.1.0.210
7 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms Ge5-0-0-0-grtsjuiv1.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
[213.140.51.249]
8 30 ms 28 ms 31 ms Xe0-1-1-0-grtmiabr3.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
[84.16.13.149]
9 66 ms 63 ms 77 ms Xe-7-1-0-0-grtnycpt2.red.telefonica-wholesale.ne
t [84.16.13.49]
10 60 ms 70 ms 64 ms Xe1-0-2-0-grtwaseq3.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
[213.140.36.82]
11 61 ms 58 ms 60 ms xe-0-3-0-5.r01.asbnva02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.2
50.9.93]
12 71 ms 68 ms 59 ms ae-1.r21.asbnva02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.4.6
]
13 124 ms 224 ms 124 ms ae-4.r20.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.4.1
03]
14 215 ms 215 ms 251 ms as-2.r20.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.3
5]
15 218 ms 232 ms 248 ms ae-2.r25.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.9
3]
16 257 ms 242 ms 229 ms ae-5.a20.tokyjp01.jp.ra.gin.ntt.net [61.213.162.
170]
17 286 ms 240 ms 257 ms ge-2-2-1.a20.tokyjp01.jp.ra.gin.ntt.net [61.120.
146.94]
18 220 ms 251 ms 232 ms 219.117.144.2
19 231 ms 231 ms 243 ms 219.117.146.129
20 225 ms 238 ms 230 ms 219.117.146.129
21 228 ms 239 ms 232 ms 202.67.52.81

Trace complete.

[GuiltyBoomerang]

Date & Time - 10:45PM GMT +10 (DST on)
Internet Service Provider - TPG Australia
Network Type and Speed - ADSL2+, 10-12Mb/s

Tracert report:
Tracing route to traceip.ffxiv.com [202.67.52.81]
over a maximum of 50 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.1.1.1
2 21 ms 20 ms 21 ms 10.20.20.41
3 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms syd-sot-ken2-csw2-tg-4-4.tpgi.com.au [202.7.214.5]
4 22 ms 22 ms 21 ms syd-sot-ken2-crt2-ge-9-0-0.tpgi.com.au [203.29.135.173]
5 22 ms 21 ms 22 ms syd-sot-ken-crt-4-Ten-11-2.tpgi.com.au [203.29.135.221]
6 20 ms 21 ms 21 ms syd-sot-ken-crt-4-Ten-11-2.tpgi.com.au [203.29.135.221]
7 123 ms 121 ms 121 ms ix-11-1-0-507.tcore2.TV2-Tokyo.as6453.net [116.0.88.21]
8 122 ms 121 ms 121 ms if-14-0-0-1720.core1.TV2-Tokyo.as6453.net [209.58.61.121]
9 123 ms 124 ms 125 ms Vlan10.ihar1.OVC-Tokyo.as6453.net [209.58.61.158]
10 123 ms 124 ms 125 ms 118.155.194.61
11 121 ms 122 ms 122 ms cm-ote221.kddnet.ad.jp [118.155.197.33]
12 123 ms 122 ms 122 ms 203.181.98.10
13 122 ms 123 ms 122 ms 61.195.56.133
14 122 ms 123 ms 122 ms 219.117.144.6
15 122 ms 121 ms 125 ms 219.117.146.153
16 123 ms 122 ms 122 ms 219.117.146.141
17 124 ms 124 ms 125 ms 219.117.146.42
18 122 ms 133 ms 140 ms traceip.ffxiv.com [202.67.52.81]

Trace complete.

[Vivaz]

Date & Time - 13:40 (GMT)
Internet Service Provider - Ono (Spain)
Network type and speed - 50Mb Cable

Tracert result:

Microsoft Windows [Versión 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. Reservados todos los derechos.

C:\Users\****>tracert -h 50 traceip.ffxiv.com

Traza a la dirección traceip.ffxiv.com [202.67.52.81]
sobre un máximo de 50 saltos:

1 13 ms 12 ms 11 ms 10.128.64.1
2 15 ms 10 ms 11 ms 10.135.240.117
3 21 ms 21 ms 20 ms 10.254.3.17
4 64 ms 50 ms 24 ms 10.254.2.141
5 30 ms 19 ms 21 ms 10.254.3.110
6 22 ms 25 ms 20 ms 213.242.71.181
7 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms ae-0-11.bar1.Madrid2.Level3.net [4.69.141.45]
8 38 ms 37 ms 37 ms ae-5-5.ebr1.Paris1.Level3.net [4.69.141.42]
9 38 ms 40 ms 36 ms ae-21-21.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net [4.69.143.118]
10 118 ms 118 ms 115 ms ae-44-44.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net [4.69.137.6
2]
11 126 ms 117 ms 117 ms ae-82-82.csw3.Washington1.Level3.net [4.69.134.1
54]
12 115 ms 121 ms 125 ms ae-84-84.ebr4.Washington1.Level3.net [4.69.134.1
85]
13 178 ms 184 ms 179 ms ae-4-4.ebr3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.132.81]

14 179 ms 178 ms 182 ms ae-83-83.csw3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.137.4
2]
15 182 ms 181 ms 184 ms ae-3-80.edge2.LosAngeles9.Level3.net [4.69.144.1
43]
16 180 ms 180 ms 183 ms ASIA-NETCOM.edge2.LosAngeles9.Level3.net [4.53.2
30.10]
17 305 ms 304 ms 304 ms gi6-0-0.cr1.nrt1.asianetcom.net [202.147.61.166]

18 303 ms 311 ms 304 ms gi1-0-0.gw1.nrt5.asianetcom.net [202.147.0.178]

19 304 ms 303 ms 302 ms squareco.asianetcom.net [203.192.149.210]
20 303 ms 305 ms 303 ms 61.195.56.129
21 294 ms 293 ms 299 ms 219.117.144.2
22 314 ms 309 ms 308 ms 219.117.146.149
23 296 ms 294 ms 294 ms 219.117.146.129
24 296 ms 304 ms 294 ms 219.117.146.38
25 296 ms 295 ms 296 ms 202.67.52.81

Traza completa.

[rickalk]

So the average EU respond time so far is 100-150ms more than NA, didnt think it'd be that big a difference. Let's hope we'll see some local servers in the near future or the planned PvP content wont be very fair imo.

---

2011-10-31 / 18.50 CET (02.50 JST)
Tele2
Cable 20mbit

Tracing route to traceip.ffxiv.com [202.67.52.81]
over a maximum of 50 hops:

1 9 ms 9 ms 8 ms c213-100-14-1.cust.tele2.se [213.100.14.1]
2 11 ms 13 ms 8 ms c213-100-14-1.cust.tele2.se [213.100.14.1]
3 20 ms 18 ms 16 ms kst5-pe-1.ge1-2s512.tele2.net [130.244.36.65]
4 12 ms 11 ms 13 ms kst7-pe-2.tengigabiteth2-3.tele2.net [130.244.53.73]
5 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms avk1-core-1.tengige0-13-0-0.tele2.net [130.244.218.185]
6 20 ms 17 ms 24 ms avk-core-3.port-channel1.tele2.net [130.244.38.3]
7 15 ms 21 ms 15 ms peer-as3320.avk.tele2.net [130.244.200.114]
8 307 ms 308 ms 307 ms 217.239.40.154
9 304 ms 301 ms 313 ms 80.150.170.106
10 305 ms 308 ms 340 ms 61.195.56.133
11 305 ms 310 ms 313 ms 219.117.144.6
12 305 ms 314 ms 309 ms 219.117.146.153
13 308 ms 308 ms 307 ms 219.117.146.141
14 305 ms 311 ms 309 ms 219.117.146.42
15 308 ms 320 ms 322 ms 202.67.52.81

[LordHun]

Date & Time 31.10.2011 21:54
Internet Service Provider ttnet (turkey)
Network Type and Speed ADSL 16mps

Microsoft Windows [Sürüm 6.1.7601]
Telif Hakkı (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. Tüm hakları saklıdır.

C:\Users\Cloud>tracert -h 50 traceip.ffxiv.com

En fazla 50 atlamanın üstünde
traceip.ffxiv.com [202.67.52.81]'ye izleme yolu :

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 25 ms 31 ms 23 ms dsl95-8-7169.ttnet.net.tr [95.8.28.1]
3 25 ms 25 ms 26 ms 81.212.78.101
4 30 ms 28 ms 28 ms 81.212.218.177
5 74 ms 78 ms 74 ms static.turktelekom.com.tr [212.156.101.61]
6 84 ms 83 ms 84 ms ffm-b10-link.telia.net [80.239.160.45]
7 84 ms 82 ms 84 ms ffm-bb1-link.telia.net [213.155.130.121]
8 168 ms 192 ms 167 ms ash-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.246.58]
9 228 ms 231 ms 228 ms las-bb1-link.telia.net [213.248.80.8]
10 247 ms 248 ms 252 ms pacnet-ic-139806-las-bb1.c.telia.net [80.239.133
.98]
11 355 ms 355 ms 354 ms gi6-0-0.cr1.nrt1.asianetcom.net [202.147.61.166]

12 357 ms 356 ms 354 ms gi1-0-0.gw1.nrt5.asianetcom.net [202.147.0.178]

13 355 ms 355 ms 353 ms squareco.asianetcom.net [203.192.149.210]
14 388 ms 372 ms 371 ms 61.195.56.129
15 368 ms 369 ms 368 ms 219.117.144.2
16 374 ms 373 ms 371 ms 219.117.146.149
17 357 ms 357 ms 357 ms 219.117.146.129
18 359 ms 360 ms 359 ms 219.117.146.46
19 369 ms 358 ms 369 ms 202.67.52.81

[Bahn]

The server to client relationship has only very little to do with what is happening. It is due to crappy design that makes it like this. There is one server, and it is in Japan. For information to go from my computer to the server, back to my computer to see a single plume, makes it crappy. Looking at peoples IPs and whatnot won't do anything. This should be shown in the game logs.

I disagree. Several knowledgeable players with network experience pointed out in another thread that it's definitely not the latency from the West to the Japanese servers that's causing it, but simply a poorly coded client. If I had the video I would link it, but basically the client isn't updating the server often enough on position changes. The latency has nothing to do with this. If a person goes from point 1 to point 10, for example, the client only tells the server when the player goes from point 1, 4, 7, and 10 (I'm using a very, very simple and dumbed down example so give me a break on this). If I have to be at point 8 to dodge an attack for example, the client doesn't tell the server "in time" that I managed to dodge an attack because the client fails to tell the server about what I'm doing at points 8 and 9; the server just thinks I moved from 7 to 10 only when I actually reach position 10 - for all intents and purposes the server thinks I'm still at position 7 when I visually see my character moving from 7 to 8, 9, and 10.

The latency would just cause me to move at a slightly later time, but if the server/client architecture was properly made like every other MMO where the client continuously updates the server on positions, I should still be able to move out of the way of an attack - I might have to move a little bit earlier, yes, but there wouldn't be these silly things where you're CLEARLY out of the way of the attack yet you still get hit.

It's much harder to spot this badly made architecture when a person is moving in a straight line (because for all intents and purposes, visually you would see other players always moving in one direction, so it can be "masked"), but when you have to sidestep/move out of the way of attacks which causes your x and y positions to change and not just one or the other, it's very easy to see.