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    Doctor-'s Avatar
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    The Doctor
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 90

    Can the level for blood for blood be lowered

    It is one of the most annoying cross class abilities to get in the game and it comes quite a bit later on, no one that is not playing on playing Dragoon enjoys having to level Lancer to 34 it is quite annoying /end of rant (also coming from some one that has multiple characters the insanity)
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    Aethaeryn's Avatar
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    Rakuyo Mitani
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    Siren
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Archer 34 for quelling strikes, conjurer 34 for stoneskin, arcanist 34 for eye for an eye, awareness is gladiator 34... :P But if you wanna knock those all down to a lower level too, I guess I'm fine with it. I have a lot of alts, and leveling stuff for cross class is always my least favorite part.
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    If it's really that annoying to get, then... don't get it. Honestly, I never really miss it unless I'm on DRG.
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    It's not particularly difficult to hit level 34 when you stack the various experience bonuses together and play efficiently. What, exactly, are you finding so tedious or difficult about it?
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    Taisai Jin
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    Lancer Lv 64
    I think Mantra takes the medal on this one...

    Honestly though, I wish they'd do away with cross-class skills and just give us extra Job skills instead... I'd rather have my own unique version of Invigorate, that perhaps even makes use of specific Job mechanics, than copy Dragoons TP recovery on every DPS...
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    Aethaeryn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    If it's really that annoying to get, then... don't get it. Honestly, I never really miss it unless I'm on DRG.
    If you're playing bard or machinist or monk or ninja without blood for blood, you are hurting your damage output a good bit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It's not particularly difficult to hit level 34 when you stack the various experience bonuses together and play efficiently. What, exactly, are you finding so tedious or difficult about it?
    Leveling alternate characters and having to level all the same cross-class stuff second/third/fourth+ time is what gets tedious. I don't really want/expect them to change it, but it's still not that fun when playing other characters.
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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    That's just something that's part of the game, though. I don't particularly like Aurum Vale, for example, but if I happen to get it through the low level roulette I just grit my teeth and get on with it. When it comes to acquiring cross class skills they're technically optional outside of high end progression. That's not to say that someone isn't shooting themselves in the foot by not getting the preferable skills - but it's hardly the worst chore in the world to have to put in a bit of effort to acquire something that is going to be useful.

    It's beneficial to everybody since it's yet another reason for people to use the duty roulette.
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    When it comes to acquiring cross class skills they're technically optional outside of high end progression.
    Note taken.
    Screw tank swaps, no provoke for my next tank alt \o/

    Frankly, since the cross class skills at this point only serve the purpose of equalizing skills between jobs, I'd rather at least the most useful ones get taken down to a lower level. I feel SE actually expects you to have those tools with their content design, most notably provoke and invigorate. Unless they somehow expect tanks in duty finder to just be able to juggle aggro on demand without it or people to stop doing their most effective rotation to conserve TP.

    In general, I feel it's pretty egh to be forced to play a class you do not want to play to get the most out of the class you do want to play, but that miiight just be me.
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    Ryu Saarva
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Note taken.
    Screw tank swaps, no provoke for my next tank alt \o/

    Frankly, since the cross class skills at this point only serve the purpose of equalizing skills between jobs, I'd rather at least the most useful ones get taken down to a lower level. I feel SE actually expects you to have those tools with their content design, most notably provoke and invigorate. Unless they somehow expect tanks in duty finder to just be able to juggle aggro on demand without it or people to stop doing their most effective rotation to conserve TP.

    In general, I feel it's pretty egh to be forced to play a class you do not want to play to get the most out of the class you do want to play, but that miiight just be me.
    yeah, provoke is not needed for non raid content.
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    yeah, provoke is not needed for non raid content.
    Are you serious? You can't effectively tank without provoke in my opinion.
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