Unchained. Seriously, why are we not abusing this skill?

[JackFross]

The real question I'd be asking is why does Sheltron block all the damage for the one TB attack in Sephy Ex but doesn't for any other physical only TB in any other trial. Eh? EH!?

Whatchu mean? It blocks Heavenly Heel successfully in Thordan, and it can block Ravana's frontal tank-split cleave. Every other trial is 50 or lower (or has no physical TB's *coughBismarckcough*), so they weren't designed with Sheltron in mind! I'm sure it'll block Ifrit's cleave and Titan's Mountain Buster, but they have no cast times and require pin-point precision, due to the whole... not designed with Sheltron in mind. c:

[SorceressVal]

Between 2 and 300 at a refreshable 20 to 30 sec with addition of a pet to boast 170 to 200 per attack and added nonstop . There is clearly no way on this blue earth that one 20 second inerval of damage is going to even come close . You fail to take in account were not talking about a single second this is a whole battle theres no contest .

[StouterTaru]

Between 2 and 300 at a refreshable 20 to 30 sec with addition of a pet to boast 170 to 200 per attack and added nonstop . There is clearly no way on this blue earth that one 20 second inerval of damage is going to even come close . You fail to take in account were not talking about a single second this is a whole battle theres no contest .

What are you even talking about? Go level your warrior high enough to actually gain the ability, try it out for a couple weeks, then come back and talk about it.

Simple . Put the way they put it there cycle of damage only hits an area once while wrath reup combo on 1 . Failing to realize theres more then 1 the mobs wont stay and wait for them to redo the same cycle while the healers are casting and the dps are hitting that means while this fake super tank is stable hold on 1 the rest walk away wipe the group cuse it only takes a second then its respawn everyone .

Too bad warrior doesn't have an AoE skill like Overpower that gives insane hate, or the ability to cross class Flash. Oh wait, they do.

[Comrade_uri]

For me Unchained is used only once. As an opener, tomahawk, the bb combo, the blade debuff combo (eye or path, I'm at work and ill, help a guy out XD ) at that point I have 4 stacks, pop internal release, berserk, unchained and do bb combo till pacify. I do that to get an amazing hate lead to swap into my dps stance and use that. I will say this, I only do that in boss fights I know very well otherwise I don't touch unchained. To me it's a tool to be used at certain times like all of the WARs ability's. I can't think of one thing that WAR has that I never use (least used award goes to the dps aoe attack you can use at 5 stacks, forgot what it was but yea, very rare it's used)

[CatchaFire420]

Seriously, pulling in Defiance since nerf will get you hate for rest of the fight with a few combos, why blow 5 stacks on a unchained CD? get hate, build stacks with with storm's eye and then internal release > Berserk > deliverance > fell cleave > infuriate > fell cleave. if both fell cleaves critical (using crit food) your looking at like 6.5-9k burst dmg. Making unchained an exercise in noobness.

That is all

[HoodRat]

Seriously, pulling in Defiance since nerf will get you hate for rest of the fight with a few combos, why blow 5 stacks on a unchained CD? get hate, build stacks with with storm's eye and then internal release > Berserk > deliverance > fell cleave > infuriate > fell cleave. if both fell cleaves critical (using crit food) your looking at like 6.5-9k burst dmg. Making unchained an exercise in noobness.

That is all

Because using unchained will allow you to do more dps when you pull in defiance, and you'll still have 5 stacks to fell cleave when unchained runs out.

[SpookyGhost]

Seriously, pulling in Defiance since nerf will get you hate for rest of the fight with a few combos, why blow 5 stacks on a unchained CD? get hate, build stacks with with storm's eye and then internal release > Berserk > deliverance > fell cleave > infuriate > fell cleave.

Because 1 extra FC isn't worth ~6 GCDs of 25% less damage, surprisingly. You'll also build significantly less aggro, and since the intention is for your co-tank (PLD/DRK) to tank after you're pacified and then never use their threat combo again, it's a good idea to actually build a huge threat lead for them to ride on. You'd also be opening with Eye, with no Unchained, and no Berserk, or you'd be opening with Block which is even worse. If you're going to do this, you may as well just OT completely and have the PLD/DRK pull.

Also, hopefully this was just a mistake in your post, but don't do 3 oGCDs between 2 GCDs. You'll clip really hard.

[FallenWings]

Granted I could have named the thread better, I didn't expect people to completely skip the opening post and it's main intent. Some good off topic discussion though I guess, maybe.

[HoodRat]

Granted I could have named the thread better, I didn't expect people to completely skip the opening post and it's main intent. Some good off topic discussion though I guess, maybe.

I believe the off topic disscussion does answer the the main question of the thread. As you can clearly see, some people believe their dps is more important than the raid dps, and that is why people don't really use unchained, much less abuse it.

[MagiusNecros]

Seems I was mistaken. My friend said he thought Sheltron mitigated all the damage from the attack where Sephirot winds up, flexes his muscles and then punches but I talked to him and yeah he confused the chance to block with damage mitigated. So I basically confused myself. Apologies.