Thread: What kind of tank do you want in 4.0?

Pretty sure it's going to be SAM. What I hope is that they take all this "I DON'T WANT SAM IT'LL BE THE SAME AS THE OTHERS" and really pull it out like they failed to do with DRK. I want them to make it SAM and really push the envelope and make people say "Wow I was mistaken this is actually awesome."

In short, SAM but git gud SE.

What about this badass? A tank that dual wields shields. lol
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...20130819091345

A tank that actually feels like a tank instead of just being a weak dps class.

Originally Posted by Ciri_Wolf

A tank that actually feels like a tank

Which means ?

Originally Posted by Reynhart

Which means ?

Extremely low meaningless damage, most buttons are just defensive CDs to juggle.

Basically 2.0 PLD.

Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

Basically 2.0 PLD.

PLD is still there, and it hasn't changed a lot when it comes to gameplay

If I would have to think of a gimmick for a tank that I want to see, I would honestly love to see a tank that focused on "counters". I realize that would SEVERELY reduce it's viability in an OT role, but hey. I was never asked to think it through!

If we mean between the potential between Samurai or Red Mage?
Well, Red Mages have never really been in a prominent "tanking" role in any of their appearances while Samurai.... have. or at least TRIED to be.

That said, I'm on team Red Mage here. I feel their origins of a 3-way hybrid between WARRIOR (that being their "mastery" of all arms), White Mage, and Black Mage, actually would fit nicely into not only a magical based tank, but one that borrows from mechanics of all 3.

The idea bouncing around my head is their "tanking stance" mechanic building charges to gain access to abilities at X amount of charges, exactly like warrior. however, these charges would have alot more drastic effects and actual impact on skills used in the same way umbral ice and astral fire do for black mage. rather than some arbitrary passive effects, you would have to decide to use these effects to improve your weaponskills and spells, or blow them for some neato effect.
While it's not unique to White Mage, I feel a "Cleric Stance" type ability to swap between a tank stance and DPS stance would also be very welcome. Their tanking gimmick could also focus on applying different Regen or healing effects on themselves.
I also dont see why they wouldnt be able to use shields. White Mage can. Black Mage can. Red Mages could in the past. We could probably use another tank that uses shields.

I don't want to see a Tank in 4.0 on all honesty.

Red Mage would be a magic DPS and Samurai is going to be the melee dps with swords people have been begging for.

If we get a new tank/healer/dps every raid cycle we'll have a lot of trouble balancing them against one another.

Necromancer tank. You would spawn undead minions to absorb/ mitigate damage.

Originally Posted by Billeffingmurray

Necromancer tank. You would spawn undead minions to absorb/ mitigate damage.

now THIS is probably the closest i could see a magical tank being, or something similar, crowd control, many minions...sad that would just get botched bc pvp would be impossible to balance or something