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  1. #1
    Player
    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    I don't think you press less button as whm than SCH
    Since the whm must use many cooldown that the SCH doesn't

    The thing is as whm you're alone in the heal/DPS balance
    While the SCH got an indépendant unit to support him in this
    But the big difference is that scholar is prediction/prevention while whm is reaction

    And remember
    A healer do not heal his team, he keep them alive while dancing wih them in the battle
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    Doc Docdoc
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    Exodus
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    Weaver Lv 37
    The thing is as whm you're alone in the heal/DPS balance
    While the SCH got an indépendant unit to support him in this
    That's the problem, from my perspective: You DON'T have an independent unit, you have an extra set of commands you need to use while still maintaining walls, DOTs, and heals. If Eos or Selene could do their job alone, it would be hands-down the funnest-looking class in the game... but as many posts previously established, both are completely incompetent when you're not directly controlling them.
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    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Well
    I have a hard time using my lore because i mostly crafted my own stuff (gsm and wvr spec)
    I did bought the head piece because it is awesome
    Then lore pants because i did not want to proto-midan one (which is copy od the crafted torso)
    And nothing more...
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nekotee View Post
    Well
    I have a hard time using my lore because i mostly crafted my own stuff (gsm and wvr spec)
    I did bought the head piece because it is awesome
    Then lore pants because i did not want to proto-midan one (which is copy od the crafted torso)
    And nothing more...
    I recommend the belt and ring. Unless your currents are overmelded or something.
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90

    This is what I'm built around and Lore is a Majority of it:

    Current Gear:
    230- Hyper conductive Tetrabiblos (Relic)
    230- Hailstorm Crown of Healing (Lore)
    220- Eikon Cloth Acton of Healing (Crafted)
    220- Eikon Cloth Sleeves of Healing (Crafted)

    230- Hailstorm Belt of Healing (Lore)
    230- Hailstorm Bottoms of Healing (Lore)
    230- Hailstorm Boots of Healing (Lore)

    230- Primal Choker of Healing (Lore)

    240- Midan Earrings of Healing (A5s)
    240- Midan Bracelets of Healing (A5s)

    220- Eikon Iron Ring of Healing (Crafted)
    220- Eikon Iron Ring of Healing (Crafted)


    220 Melds:



    My end Goal SCH Gear is a relic with custom stats (So I can dump the Acc from my 220 peices and pick up the Lore rings then since they are the same stats but with more mind) or A8s Book. Every 230 Lore piece I have would get upgraded to 240. Top would be the A8s Top.

    When I first got my 230 Relic, upgrading from the Sephy book, my Crit hit 1100+. I had to cut it back because with the upgrade, I was still doing the same damage as if I had never upgraded. I feel like it was because the 120ish SS that the sephy book had, was keeping me afloat and when it left I was down to 450 SS. Reeling in my crit to high, while upping my Det and SS (Yum Lore pants and meh boots, but about tied with a8s boots, double but they help me reach a comfortable SS) helped to fix the issue. With Pipira I hit about every rear Acc cap I would need in game (including a8s.)
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 05-21-2016 at 06:16 AM.

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    Player JackFross's Avatar
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    Eve Malqir
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    Also - the most important tip for anyone using a controller in this game (ESPECIALLY if you're healing with a controller) is the extended hotbars. Under Character Config under Hotbars, not only can you adjust which hotbars are seen and not (so you don't have to switch to mouse mode to find them - can just turn them on/move through UI management), but if you go to the Cross tab, you have access to "Expanded Hold Controls"



    This is incredibly useful. It gives you a full 16 extra buttons - 32 total - without ever needing to cycle hotbars. If you look at my post where I showed my bars, you can see how I have my 4 bar set up. All my Jobs use it similarly. I don't know if you DO or DO NOT use this feature, but it's an incredibly helpful one for managing the massive skill bloat in the game atm.
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by JackFross View Post


    This is incredibly useful. It gives you a full 16 extra buttons - 32 total - without ever needing to cycle hotbars. If you look at my post where I showed my bars, you can see how I have my 4 bar set up. All my Jobs use it similarly. I don't know if you DO or DO NOT use this feature, but it's an incredibly helpful one for managing the massive skill bloat in the game atm.
    I use extended but set my extended to be from the same bar. (8- Right) So either combination of pressing them, the same skills appear.
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JackFross View Post
    Also - the most important tip for anyone using a controller in this game (ESPECIALLY if you're healing with a controller) is the extended hotbars. Under Character Config under Hotbars, not only can you adjust which hotbars are seen and not (so you don't have to switch to mouse mode to find them - can just turn them on/move through UI management), but if you go to the Cross tab, you have access to "Expanded Hold Controls"



    This is incredibly useful. It gives you a full 16 extra buttons - 32 total - without ever needing to cycle hotbars. If you look at my post where I showed my bars, you can see how I have my 4 bar set up. All my Jobs use it similarly. I don't know if you DO or DO NOT use this feature, but it's an incredibly helpful one for managing the massive skill bloat in the game atm.
    After your last post, I realized that I am just not as familiar with the configurations menu as I should be. So I spent some time and played around with all the options, and discovered this one. I did see how useful expanding the bars is, but have not put it to practice yet. Will see how it goes when I do my daily beast tribes today.
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    Player JackFross's Avatar
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    Eve Malqir
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    That cuts down on half of the utility brought by the expanded bars. You lose so much real estate by limiting yourself like that. On my DPS Jobs (DRG and MCH) I have buff skills in the same spot (Triangle on both R2>L2 and L2>R2 - Heavy Thrust / Hot Shot) and a few other skills get the double-dip treatment (like I have Leg Sweep on both sides, and Gauss Barrel in the same spot - down on dpad) but I think it's strictly beneficial to have the two sides as being unique and then getting used to having 8 different skills on either side.

    Like, for Scholar, my R2 is all my healing stuff (Physick, Adlo, Lustrate, Embrace, Emergency/Deployment Tactics, Aetherflow) and then R2>L2 brings up all my raid heals (Succor, Indom, Sacred Soil, etc). And then L2 is all my DPS stuff (dots, Broil, Energy Drain, Cleric, B2) while L2>R2 brings up extra DPS skills (Shadow Flare, Miasma II, Bane, etc). Virus is on the DPS expanded (since I'll generally be targeting an enemy when I'm on L2) while Eye for an Eye is on the healing extended (since more likely to be on a party member on the healing side).

    It works for me, doesn't work for everyone. I just think it makes sense to set it up that way. I also know someone who plays on controller and has Physick macros for every person in the party <2>, <3>, etc to <8> not including <me> since it's easy to de-target and cast. He has Physick+Embrace mapped to the tank ones.
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I have enough space as it is. Its just an additional option to consider. :O lol I map out my skills from 1-60 to plan where they go on paper and adjust the draft as i experience discomfort with it. SCH im completely comfortable with.
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