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  1. #91
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sabeta View Post
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    Just out of curiosity, if you don't care, why go? I haven't even got close to touching the content many of you have been in since the expansion. So posts like yours raise questions for me. You're definitely not the first SCH to make such statements, and almost seem disappointed by how powerful fairy heals are. You definitely sound knowledgeable and possess the skill, and your OP spoke very strongly towards arguments I was making earlier about the importance of casting galvanize to shield before dmg comes.

    I do know that thus far in all the 4-man content I've done, I've pretty much breezed my way through them as SCH, but I've usually just gave that credit to the synced players who have dominated those dungeons a kagillion times. Because for some reason, my WHM consistently queues up with derps, while my SCH gets the HP inflated tanks and mechanic wary DPS. In any case, I want to contribute as much as I can even if it only shaves off five minutes from the entire instance, and if I no longer found enjoyment, I just wouldn't play the job anymore. But that is me. Perhaps the new patch will bring back some that excitement you likely experienced during your first time through.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabeta View Post
    ...Telling people that they HAVE to go 100% in dungeon runs is a quick way to scare them away from Scholar, like you almost did to ZadocFish.
    Agreed. I had to tell my FC this when some of them started throwing all of the 50+ content my way like immediately after OP Archon. That whole 'dungeon runs are like sex' thing I've seen tossed about is totally true, and I don't give it up easy! lol
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  2. #92
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    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    I didn't said that you have to push hard in 4man content
    No it's not mandatory

    But as the novice mentor said once there is no damage throw some DPS to help the team

    If you follow someone and let the fairy heal
    Why would à tank bother use CD ? why would DPS get out of aoe ?

    Don't push but do a minimum
    It's like whm that spam cure in dungeon it's like useless and mp wasted
    With some micro illusion of healing

    Like in the current Amdapor hard
    You don't want to DPS fine, but on the first boss deal with the tether interception them and let the DPS do their jobit's à help and cost you nothing
    On second boss deal with elemental bomb
    On final boss protect them

    There is many thing that à healer can do to help the team without compromising the healing job

    Be a helpful healer, not a slacking one !
    Nothing more insulting in a group to see a LAZY one when you're doing your part of the job (in DPS or tank)
    If you go on duty, it's a synergy of 4 person
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  3. #93
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    Isn't Cure 1 the most magic-efficient healing spell WHM have?
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  4. #94
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    In case of intensive healing yes
    Fast cheap efficient and possible free proc
    Hell yes it is good

    In time to time healing
    Cure II is better since you cast it one time with regen and go back doing something else (mechanics or DPS)
    Since my whm has more or less 1050 crit
    I do often cure II crit which heal for 10500 hp minimum (and reach 13k depending on the buff)

    Why would i bother healing again when one heal top any tank

    ...

    Bit yes otherwise cure I is the best healing tool
    Especially on lower level
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  5. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zadocfish View Post
    Isn't Cure 1 the most magic-efficient healing spell WHM have?
    Nope. Regen
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  6. #96
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    Hibiki Uta
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
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    Gotta get my weekly caps done somehow. Anyway, At the start of Heavenward Eos/Selene were bugged so that they didn't receive your gear bonuses properly. Even then she could solo-heal Fractal and Neverreap with a decent ilvl. It's not so much that I'm disappointed in her power, but more about the fact that dungeons in general aren't challenging. WHM should be able to achieve similar results by dropping Clerics to lay Regen.

    @Nekotee: in what world do your Tanks and DPS actually use Cooldown or Rotations? I consistently outparse damage dealers when I actually put in effort. If everyone else isn't putting in effort then neither will I.

    Also, Regen is 1050 Potency and costs less then Cure I iirc. That's the most efficient heal White Mage's have. Eos is just slightly weaker than that (only because Eos can't be applied to more than one target at a time) but is free and spammable while in Clerics.
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  7. #97
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    I have a question about the Fairy. Will she still cast Embrace on players below 80% on obey, or do you have to command her to heal at any time Obey is on?
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  8. #98
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    Lynk Lloyd
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    Scholar Lv 70
    She will still. ( but i think it's below 70%). But when it's not the case, you gotta ask her to cast it. ( precast and all the stuff)
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  9. #99
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    That makes it a lot simpler to focus, then; relying on her to patch holes in your concentration and you still have control over when she pops her CDs. If that's the case, it sounds like micro-managing will be much less of a nightmare for a new player! That actually makes me want to give the class the old college try.
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  10. #100
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    Lynk Lloyd
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    Haha yeah indeed ! Yet, i recommend you to make a macro to spam Embrace to the MT. This will help you a lot for the rest, let her alone, she will heal peeps on her own ! Remember to place her: she is unfortunately focusing on following you instead of casting.
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