Moving Normally(or even faster) while under the effects of heavy

[Ryuko]

Latency can cause the following things:

1) People appear to be jumping around because you are lagging. (The opposite is true if someone else is lagging -- they will appear to be jumping around, or teleporting from one area to another.)
2) You'll lose certain timed abilities. (I can't tell you how much I rage if I hit a random lag spike and lose Aetherflow. Waiting a minute for my stacks is too long! Doesn't happen often, but it's a known thing.)
3) Pets are slow to follow your commands. (You'll need to spam the button many, many times.)
4) Mechanic AoE/Line circles will appear for shorter periods of time than usual, thus resulting in you DEFINITELY getting hit by that AoE.
5) You appear to get out of an AoE in time, but you don't. (This is when other people see your dead body 'slide' on the ground -- because your client notified the server that you had moved, but it was after the server registered damage... thus, you slide to your death.)
6) Casts/abilities just don't go off.

Please notice how the majority of laggy side effects involving your position being updated are clearly due to packet loss. That's why people appear to jump around when they are lagging. That does not mean someone will continue to follow a straight trajectory, or even run around a while, while they are weighted or stunned. If the video posted displayed the player in question running for another second before stopping for the stun, I'd say it might be lag. If it showed the person being stunned and then 'teleporting' to a spot a few feet away (in addition to the player seeing other people do the same), I'd say it might be lag. I would give the person the benefit of the doubt because 'cheating' is a VERY serious allegation. SE takes it seriously, and they'll do their investigation.

To be clear, no one is threatening to try to break up anyone's static...? (I don't know where that was mentioned. I think most people complaining are people who have noticed this in the solo queue.)

These aren't salty players, either. As I said before, it's only one person everyone is complaining about, and I suspect most didn't see that video before forming their opinion (considering it was just recently posted). I see people complaining about it in PvP linkshells on my server because it's something everyone clearly notices, whether they are paired with the person or not. I personally haven't seen it myself (my job isn't generally to keep the healer CC-locked, and I don't think I've played with the player in question more than a handful of times), but I trust the opinion of a lot of other players I've personally seen in the Feast (on my server or not). They're not salty from losing -- they're annoyed that someone is seemingly circumventing the rules. That would annoy me too.

Anyway, it's worth investigating at the least.

[aeoncs]

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Is everyone in your FC that delusional or are you the odd one out? Just curious.
Maybe you should read up on damage control, being the leader of an apparently quite well known FC, unless you appreciate the stigma.

Anyway, this thread should die now. Obvious proof has been provided, on top of the numerous reports, and now it's up to SE to do something; which probably means that... well, you know.

[Thekk]

Sorry, I have to split my post because it is too long apparently.

Of course we're going to defend him. Some of us have been playing with him for a long time, years in some cases, and we know for a fact he's a very good player. We haven't seen anything that would lead us to think he's cheating over that time and that leaves us skeptical that he would start now. Our parses aren't public because we know our overall dps is bad. If anything, that Hummelfaust parse should make it pretty obvious that he is making up for some of our weaker elements. The only reason it was made public is that he was #1 at a time where he wasn't massively outgeared by all the other top parsers. Now, I do think Ardelia is getting overdramatic playing the "if he gets banned, you're just going to kill our static" card.

[Thekk]

I took a look at the video and yes, that heavy looks fishy. It wouldn't be the first time I see something weird happening in this game though. It'll take more than that to convince me, as I'm sure it'll take more than my word to convince anyone. Videos uploaded by other players that show it happening in other situations would be a good start.

The best way to clear any doubt would be for him to stream while he's PvPing. Obviously, as soon as his win rate would drop, which is already happening, people would just scoff at it and say he just stopped using whatever he was. People have no idea how much PvP experience he actually has. I actually think that him streaming would actually be very beneficial to the community as a whole, because when I started PvPing, he gave me a lot of solid tips that I haven't seen in most of the "help me play better with my class" threads over different forums and reddit.

[Thekk]

I'm honestly surprised that this thread has been going on for so long. I doubt something constructive will come out of it and nobody's going to change anyone's mind. If SE finds something conclusive, I very much hope they take action. And if they don't, I hope people trust their decision.

By the way, there's another healer with a 77.7% win rate in the same top 100. So much for that being impossible, or are we going to start accusing him too?

[aeoncs]

I took a look at the video and yes, that heavy looks fishy. It wouldn't be the first time I see something weird happening in this game though. It'll take more than that to convince me, as I'm sure it'll take more than my word to convince anyone. Videos uploaded by other players that show it happening in other situations would be a good start.

If it only were for that one Heavy, no one would have said anything. People have come forward because it has happened again and again - in that one video alone you can see different forms of CC not working at all, not once but several times. That's not fishy, that's decisive proof.

By the way, there's another healer with a 77.7% win rate in the same top 100. So much for that being impossible, or are we going to start accusing him too?

With the difference being that the other person has a 1k rating, thus still facing bronze and sometimes unranked players; instead of a Top 10 player with an even higher win rate.

But yes, pretty much everything has been said and done, at least community-wise.

[Volfield]

Forward this thread and video evidence to a gaming news outlet or something, i'm sure if it gets picked up, it'll force square's attention to these cheating matters.

[lovelikewinter]

Forward this thread and video evidence to a gaming news outlet or something, i'm sure if it gets picked up, it'll force square's attention to these cheating matters.

Ironic and sad that "But he hurt muh feelings" type of complaints/tickets are the ones that Devs (and Yoshi P) choose to respond to as opposed to do anything about cheaters.

Show me a competitve, online game that doesn't have people throwing salt at each other, it's the internet.