Allow dragoons to wear tank armor.

[Zorafin]

Bare with me.

There are 13 (combat) classes in this game. Of these, all three tanks share armor. All three healers share gear. Both ranged share gear, and both casters share gear. All three melee have their own sets each.

So, let's say I want to level and gear all the classes, because I enjoy being able to change around and might get bored if I stay with one class too long. I level all the tanks first, get one set of gear, and I'm good. With one set of gear, I've geared one quarter of the classes. I level all the healers, get one more set of gear for a total of two, and I've geared half the classes. But I'm not halfway done.

I level black mage, gear it and summoner. Eight classes geared with three armor sets.
I level the two ranged dps, and gear them. Ten classes leveled out of thirteen, and I am now halfway done gearing my classes

Basically, what I'm getting at is that the gearing situation for melee is rediculous. For the most part, dragoon armor is just tank armor. And ninja is just bard armor. And monk armor is just ninja armor. Why not just combine them and get it over with?


Allow dragoons to wear tank armor. Lower the strength of tank armor down to the strength of dragoon armor. Give tanks a trait that increases defense gained from armor to bring them back up. Give dragoons a trait that increases damage based on parry.
Or just remove parry from tank armor. Nobody likes it.

Allow ninjas to wear ranged armor, since they're basically the same anyway. Allow monks to wear ranged armor. Give them a trait which gives them a point of strength for every point of dexterity on their armor.

With that, there are four sets of armor. Heavy, light, magic, and healing. Four is a good number of armors for players to try to get, nobody is jipped for playing a certain class, everyone is happy.

[Eidolon]

I don't understand why MNK/NIN don't share gear. I don't understand why they made NIN DEX-based instead of STR-based. It seemed like a lot of frivolous work to try and make NIN "Unique" from the others, but all it did was add an extra gear set.

I like the place DRG is at, but that might be my own bias in there. The main reason for this is I prefer the current levels of gear, particularly

Plate/Heavy
Chain/Moderate
Leather/Medium
Cloth/Light

Casters fall into catagory #4. Ranged, NIN, and MNK fall into #3. DRG falls into #2. Tanks fall into #1.

When they release SAM, I hope they share gear with DRG in #2. We really need less leather classes.

[Zorafin]

The only thing I dislike about dragoon having its own armor class is that it would be five armor sets to collect instead of four. Medium armor is cool, I agree. But after I get my third armor set, I start hating the game. I feel like I've put enough effort into it, and want to start seeing reward for my troubles. So my choice is, only play dragoon for dps, or hate my life.
I guess I could do only play ninja/monk/any other dps, but let's face it. It's a freaking dragon knight. Why would I not want to play that?


What your saying seems more likely. Samurai will share dragoon's gear. Which makes me wonder how gear will look after that. Dragoon gear usually has the eyes hidden. Will they keep that?

[Ultimatecalibur]

There are currently 7 types of armor for aesthetics reasons. The 7 types are Tank, Mail, Melee, Rogue, Ranged, Caster and Healer.

3 new dps classes is all we need to balance gear out.

If Samurai is a dps it will likely share Mail gear with Dragoon.
The roguish Red Mage could share Rogue gear with the Nin and it would give the designers more reason to differentiate Rogue gear from Melee and Ranged gear which it usually shares models with.
All that is left is for the Monk to share Melee gear with another "brawler" style job.

[Eidolon]

All that is left is for the Monk to share Melee gear with another "brawler" style job.

Or Dancer/Blue Mage, as I've seen is a very popular request on the forums. Red Mage could also fall into the Catagory of being Monk-ish, as it'd be a cloth-based armor for close quaters. But as you pointed out, Rogue probably fits RDM better, armor-class and aesthetic wise (Seeing as a lot of NIN gear compared to MNK gear uses chain-links in its design.)

[RyuSaarva]

sure but it will make dragoons lose all jump abilities and -35% to moving speed.

[Sirus222]

I don't understand why MNK/NIN don't share gear. I don't understand why they made NIN DEX-based instead of STR-based. It seemed like a lot of frivolous work to try and make NIN "Unique" from the others, but all it did was add an extra gear set.

I like the place DRG is at, but that might be my own bias in there. The main reason for this is I prefer the current levels of gear, particularly

Plate/Heavy
Chain/Moderate
Leather/Medium
Cloth/Light

Casters fall into catagory #4. Ranged, NIN, and MNK fall into #3. DRG falls into #2. Tanks fall into #1.

When they release SAM, I hope they share gear with DRG in #2. We really need less leather classes.

well ninja using dex does sort of make sense lore wise since thiefs/ninjas are more known for their nimbleness rather than their brute strength.
but yeah, its annoying to try to gear a 2nd melee class with how the gear set is now.

[Morzy]

Monk armor isnt ninja armor. Ninja is the one who stole all of monks armor pre 2.4 =_=..

Im insulted to be compared to that scaley lore armor. How would u expect me to do my shit in that?

I get ur frustration but all the melee r different. Monks might be similar to ninja but ninja isnt a straight strength class like monk no matter how u look at it. N dragoon may as well be a alien.

[MrsFluffyButt]

lol, fack no.

[Yuni_Queen]

I have seen DRGs using Foresight.

No.