Bard: critical hit rate, determination or skill speed?

[Yeol]

A friend of mine told me the new thing is 'SS' so I melded it to everything I can and caped it. Secondary stats was 'crit rate'.

for A5S Hummelfaust my damage was good. I play on ps4 so static members will tell me if it was low, average or high.

But. After clearing A5S they said the over all damage of the fight was low for me . So I went and switch to 'cirt rate' and made 'SS' my secondary stats.

This time I made 200 lower damage on Hummelfaust. Yet the damage of the overall fight was high, I was pretty close to our BLM.

I know that you need high crit rate for bloodletter to reset. I think this what made my damage high on the long run. While I made 200 less damage on Hummelfaust because of short time.

Another thing I saw. A il239 BRD that had full 'crit rate' meld and 'det'. Obviously, he already cleared all midas savage. But he had very low skill speed (400-450) which is very low.

My question is What is the best stats for BRD?

[Ashelia_Ferron]

WD: 13.459
DEX: 1.000
DET: 0.166
CRT: 0.295
SS: 0.168

https://dervyxiv.wordpress.com/stat-weights/

[Yeol]

WD: 13.459
DEX: 1.000
DET: 0.166
CRT: 0.295
SS: 0.168

https://dervyxiv.wordpress.com/stat-weights/

So I asume I was correct? crit > SS > det
While I also see crit > det > SS can work as well since 0.002 deference is really nothing.

Thanks for the weights btw ^^

[kalasnikov]

those Stat weights are not 100% and people relying on them without own thinking are not good players. NOBODY Knows the real stat weights and not any amount of testing will reveal the precise weights. Bards king stat is crit due the river of blood trait. If you wonder should ss or det be second best, you have to decide between determination's increased overall damage ( 3.0 det nerf only applies to autoattacks) vs skill speeds faster casts making last second iron jawing easier, faster empyreal arrow recast and weaker determination like effect to dots.

[Jamillion]

Crit is the way to go on bard, the job was practically built on it.

[Jamillion]

those Stat weights are not 100% and people relying on them without own thinking are not good players. NOBODY Knows the real stat weights and not any amount of testing will reveal the precise weights. Bards king stat is crit due the river of blood trait. If you wonder should ss or det be second best, you have to decide between determination's increased overall damage ( 3.0 det nerf only applies to autoattacks) vs skill speeds faster casts making last second iron jawing easier, faster empyreal arrow recast and weaker determination like effect to dots.

They're pretty reliable, the only stat that is kind of up in the air is Crit since there's an RNG component.

[Cetonis]

The only thing about stat weights is that they're theoretical vacuum numbers that use set rotations. That's worth being aware of, mostly in the case of Skill Speed. Det is a percentage-based boost, and Crit is as well on the average. So is Skill Speed in theory but you get into uptime tiers and so on. But overall math is math.

In BiS terms, the SkS vs. Det issue is actually moot, since once you get done maximizing Crit while hitting the Acc cap, there are only maybe 0-2 slots to meld a Det or SkS anyway. What ends up happening is that the pre-A8S BiS has fairly low Skill Speed, and then with the addition of the Midan Coat and Bow the post-A8S BiS has fairly high Skill Speed.

So you just need to be prepared to handle either situation gameplay-wise. I've put up strong numbers with literally zero added skill speed, just recently starting to pick a little back up again as I finished up my Lore buys. It's not something I pay great attention to save for being aware of the capacity to stuff an extra weave into my open.

[randysquirrel]

piety so you can play me foes even longer. foes all day long til your fingers bleed kthanx

[JackFross]

those Stat weights are not 100% and people relying on them without own thinking are not good players.

Stat weights are actually 100% calculable and precise measures of how a particular set of stats performs in an actual parse under ideal conditions. They're completely accurate. The thing is that they're 100% reliable for a particular gear set and not 100% for another. The ones Dervy makes are a realistic approximation/average across the current range of stats available to a given Job, so as to create a relatively accurate measure of how good a stat is.

It's kind of hilarious how you say "stat weights are wrong" and then in the same breath explain why the weights Dervy calculated are reasonably accurate.

[kalasnikov]

Stat weights are actually 100% calculable and precise measures of how a particular set of stats performs in an actual parse under ideal conditions. They're completely accurate. The thing is that they're 100% reliable for a particular gear set and not 100% for another. The ones Dervy makes are a realistic approximation/average across the current range of stats available to a given Job, so as to create a relatively accurate measure of how good a stat is.

It's kind of hilarious how you say "stat weights are wrong" and then in the same breath explain why the weights Dervy calculated are reasonably accurate.

People like you who cannot use common sense are the usual defenders of stat weights. How can a person with no official info calculate 100% UNDENIABLY accurate stat weight for a job he cannot do tests with? How can a person calculate 100% weight for a stat, that has diminishing returns when stacked over certain amount? Answer is you cant. No matter how you or anyone claim it being 100%, IT WILL NEVER be 100% without square releasing all the information needed to calculate it. No matter how much you do theorycrafting, it WILL remain a theory.