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  1. #21
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    Naraku_Diabolos's Avatar
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    Hayley Westenra
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    Excalibur
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lan_Mantear View Post
    Too many players are vindictive. Give general players access this type of power and we'll see it devolve into witch hunts about this or that player behaving 'suspiciously'. GM's or anyone with GM-like powers should not be part of the player-base.
    Well, if we can pinpoint an area where RMT are popping up and report it to the STF, the dev team can look into that section of an area to see how they are hacking it. That is why I bolded the text in my original post as plugging a leak. I did not say anything about reporting bots by names as they appear and disappear really quickly either by going into an instance or logging off and then being deleted. If we could highlight an area on the map where RMT are appearing, the STF can look into that area. If things go that way, they can see a pattern where RMT are appearing.

    I believe hunts appear randomly on the map at times, so I'm pretty sure GMs and the STF will know where a hunt is located so people can't abuse a reporting system such as what I described.
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    It doesn't work that way. You are thinking they are hacking the game code, which is not what is happening.
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    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    Muhau Nbolo
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    I much prefered GM Steve back then.
    Forget that, everything can be answered with a dragon.
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    Yasuhiro's Avatar
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    Marie Antoinette
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    Kujata
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    Conjurer Lv 76
    I think I can see this going pretty wrong with players handing out false reports on people just gathering in silence. I've had friends in my LS say they've received /tells from players asking "are you a bot?" when they're just gathering in silence, people need to mind their own business really and not offer themselves to be official witch hunters.
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  5. #25
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    Knahli's Avatar
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    K'nahli Yohko
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 89
    My suggestion has always been something along a similar vein of an in-game, right-click report. Basically, if a particular character accumulates a certain amount of reports then the server begins running tighter checks on them specifically. Bots love to teleport as we all know, I'm sure the server could pick up on extreme distances covered in implausible amounts of time or what have you. That way the server isn't wasting resources doing these super scans on every single player but can afford it to the characters that have garnered enough attention from players. If a positive catch is detected, the bot is banned immediately as opposed to every maintenance or whenever it is that they are actually removed. As players accumulate a higher count of successful reports that were later banned, their report value can increase; meaning that their credibility is recognised and their single vote can count for.... 5 instead of 1 for instance, meaning that less people are needed to report any one bot and bans can be handed out even faster.
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    Aranie Crowley
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Morzy View Post
    R u saying ud rather not try because the risk is great? Of course it would be risky, but not everything good comes without risk and there will always be those that abuse features.
    I'm saying that the community on this game is not the....well the "nicest" (does this word exists ? oO) in the world not to use any other unpleasant word so you can be sure that, within a week, hundreds of innocent players will be "punished" by trolls so yes, i'd rather not take the risk of giving them such powers :/

    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    Depends on the powers given. Early multiplayer world's, like WorldsAway & Pride! Universe had players with elevated access to help out & there were no problems whatsoever. I'm not saying that such players have ban access & stuff but if a RMT report comes from enough of the "trusted" players the spammer should be instantly suspended. At the moment it can take a LONG time for persistent RMT or bots to vanish. Sensible, trained & reliable players will only act where they see an obvious problem (20 THM hiding in Mun Tuy with random names, for example). Of course they would suffer sanctions & loss of privilege if they abuse it - just like how Mentors work now.
    Times have changed and so did players.
    Back then, MMo were not that popular therefore, player base was smaller and ppl used to play together from a game to another so they were more respectfull.
    Plus, how do you decide wich player can be "trusted" ?
    Like the mentor system wich allow speedruner and rude person to become mentor just by farming dungeons as tank (you always get the votes as tank) and jobs ? (did some dung with mentor actually being rude toward new players and kicking them....)
    I think the easiest way to get rid of them is to give us the ability to just report as a bot via a right click instead of the actual system ^^"
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    Last edited by Celef; 05-13-2016 at 07:37 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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