Players as an in-game RMT Task Force reporter, as a new idea... Devs read!

[Morzy]

Player Moderators. This is what Jagex called them in RuneScape. Jagex even eventually offered some of them jobs..

P-Mods would basically be players looking to help the community, a step up from the Mentor system, a bit step at that.

On RuneScape, P-Mods could mute players, taking away all forms of communication to other players. I don't see why this "muting" can't be done here, expecially if its so painfully obvious that this player I'm looking at is a bot spamming other people. Additionally they could ban, and the ban would be investigated by Jagex-Mods, in this case it would be GM's.

[Celef]

Player Moderators. This is what Jagex called them in RuneScape. Jagex even eventually offered some of them jobs..

P-Mods would basically be players looking to help the community, a step up from the Mentor system, a bit step at that.

On RuneScape, P-Mods could mute players, taking away all forms of communication to other players. I don't see why this "muting" can't be done here, expecially if its so painfully obvious that this player I'm looking at is a bot spamming other people. Additionally they could ban, and the ban would be investigated by Jagex-Mods, in this case it would be GM's.

Because it will be used by players only to troll others....All the players are not db but unfortunatly you can't take the risk to have some of them ruining other's experience just for "fun" :/

[LineageRazor]

Well, for starters, it's unlikely that SE much cares about the troupes of THM/ARC parading around. These bots are the smallest of the small fry; they can be recreated in seconds, so banning them is like spitting up a waterfall. It's MUCH more effective to ban these bots after days or weeks of work has been put into leveling and equipping them. Not sure what is meant by "strengthening the areas"; bots interact with the game in the same manner that players do. It is pretty much impossible to tell whether a command originates from a player or from a computer - because player commands also originate from computers.

Additionally, they are low priority because the only folks they bother are the folks who can't stand that RMT and bots exist in any form. For everyone else, they barely are even aware that they exist. The only times you're likely to even see them are at low levels while they grind mobs until they're high enough to enter dungeons. They don't monopolize any resources that are desired by players. They don't speak or interact with players in any way. Stamping them out is pretty much impossible, so SE leaves them alone until they get to the point where banning them actually has some sting.

Tellbots and shoutbots are another story; SE jumps on them pretty quickly. It's extraordinarily rare that you'll see a tellbot last even as long as a full day. Unfortunately, doing so is just as pointless as taking out the leveling bots: they can be and are replaced in seconds. Nevertheless, SE eliminates them as fast as possible in order to appease players who don't understand how impossible a task it is to stop them entirely. (There are whole forum threads full of hilariously bad player suggestions as to how they could actually be stopped: Ban all Chinese IPs! Stop all player communication until you ding level 50! Autoban any player who sends a tell to more than five different people in a minute! Those are some of the worst I've seen, but I could go on...)

SE's primary targets are ones that are less visible to players; the ones that store and distribute gil. These are the ones primarily involved in the actual business of selling gil to players, and these are the ones that hurt RMT most when they get banned. Finding these is another reason why SE tolerates leveling bots: by tracking where the leveling bots send their gil, SE can figure out which bots are storing that gil. A properly aimed ban can cost RMT billions of gil, something that stings far worse than cleaning up a pack of THMs and ARCs would.

[Eidolon]

Look man. We don't need an RMT task force. All we need is the following:

-> Me
-> A dragon
-> A jail cell

Anyone who read GM Dave knows the rest.

[Welsper59]

Look man. We don't need an RMT task force. All we need is the following:

-> Me
-> A dragon
-> A jail cell

Anyone who read GM Dave knows the rest.

I much prefered GM Steve back then.

[Xlantaa]

I don't think give players such kind of power is not good idea. You know how the community is. They can just report a innocent player.

[Morzy]

Because it will be used by players only to troll others....All the players are not db but unfortunatly you can't take the risk to have some of them ruining other's experience just for "fun" :/

R u saying ud rather not try because the risk is great? Of course it would be risky, but not everything good comes without risk and there will always be those that abuse features.

[Culfinrandir]

What we need is an easiest way to report them, like a simple option "report as a bot" when you right clic a toon

Culfinrandir : your idea is not bad at all, but giving power to players will result in them using it for personnal benefits :/

Depends on the powers given. Early multiplayer world's, like WorldsAway & Pride! Universe had players with elevated access to help out & there were no problems whatsoever. I'm not saying that such players have ban access & stuff but if a RMT report comes from enough of the "trusted" players the spammer should be instantly suspended. At the moment it can take a LONG time for persistent RMT or bots to vanish. Sensible, trained & reliable players will only act where they see an obvious problem (20 THM hiding in Mun Tuy with random names, for example). Of course they would suffer sanctions & loss of privilege if they abuse it - just like how Mentors work now.

[Culfinrandir]

Too many players are vindictive. Give general players access this type of power and we'll see it devolve into witch hunts about this or that player behaving 'suspiciously'. GM's or anyone with GM-like powers should not be part of the player-base.

Anyone who acted vindictively would be picked up pretty easily & sanctioned. To be honest, if it got rid of the vindictive element in the game it'd be even better than ridding it of spam! I play in Eorzea to escape from my own problems & limitations, taking pride in my "life" & reputation in the game. I'd never jeopardise it for revenge or by being petty. I guess those who would aren't exactly great Eorzean citizens & are part of the problem!

[Culfinrandir]

I don't think give players such kind of power is not good idea. You know how the community is. They can just report a innocent player.

Not all of the community are like that though & those who behave that way aren't really part of the "community". Being part of a community involves working to better the experience for everyone, that is what a "Community Mentor" (or whatever name it would be) is for.