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    ?

    In all seriousness, we can only get as much physics as the engine allows, and being an MMO, I don't see it being all that intensive due to the fact that all of the data has to be sent from the server to the player, and having too much physics code will slow the game down for everyone. Clever animations are a good cheat for this, and that is likely what we will get for now.
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    You ask for physics and all I can think of is:

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    I would like to see hair physics, because there are a ton of clothes that clip with long hair, specifically the taffeta hood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnduinLynn View Post
    I would like to see hair physics, because there are a ton of clothes that clip with long hair, specifically the taffeta hood.
    this will never ever, not until FFXXVIII MMO (september 2035 release date) happen. The amount of resources it takes to do hair physics is fine for a AAA offline game, because its all contained on a disk, but for an MMO, any player that looks at you needs to be sent that data from the server, which for something like that could cause fires at the SE server plant with the current state it is in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    this will never ever, not until FFXXVIII MMO (september 2035 release date) happen. The amount of resources it takes to do hair physics is fine for a AAA offline game, because its all contained on a disk, but for an MMO, any player that looks at you needs to be sent that data from the server, which for something like that could cause fires at the SE server plant with the current state it is in.
    Well the easiest solution is to have conditional checking on head/body pieces is that if you have a hairstyle that clips with it. Swap the hair to be put into a compact version like a ponytail, or a bun. This would be a simple model change.

    The reason they won't do this one is because it will mean more data per character, and means they would have to model different hairstyles to work with different armour.
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    That's actually interesting part.

    If they could give us just personal Cloth Physics, would server get overloaded with everyones personal Physics?
    Since the data woudn't be counted as PlayerNumber^PlayerNumber. Just A[PlayerNumber].
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuni_Queen View Post
    If they could give us just personal Cloth Physics, would server get overloaded with everyones personal Physics?
    If they did that, it would be entirely client side, so the server wouldn't have anything to do with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    If they did that, it would be entirely client side, so the server wouldn't have anything to do with it.
    Being client side (and having a fallback version like used for other characters) also means that it could be enabled or disabled according to the capabilities of the machine you're running on. Turn it on for a top end gaming rig and off for an old clunker that can barely load the game as is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saccharin View Post
    Well it could be the same as cloth physics if you treat long hair as say like a piece of cloth as it sort of does now. Proper hair is made of thousands of tiny strands so if SE would implement proper hair it would take enormous amounts of time to process.
    TressFX & TressFX Hair would benefit the game immensely. Alas, they are AMD features & we all know that SE seem to favour Nvidia when it comes to FFXIV. Nvidia do have HairWorks as part of GameWorks but, unlike AMD's TressFX, it's proprietary software. SE already licence at least part of GameWorks as they've implemented HBAO+.

    Why SE haven't worked more closely with AMD given that their technology is used in the PS4 is beyond me. GPUOpen is great technology & completely free of licencing issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    Why SE haven't worked more closely with AMD given that their technology is used in the PS4 is beyond me. GPUOpen is great technology & completely free of licencing issues.
    Probably due to contract that was made before SE even considered making a PS4 release. Maybe they didn't expect it will go so well.
    But when i read about new features, and there was HBAO+ i was kind of surprised.
    Quess they starts to think about serious graphical improvments over next expansion.

    Thou indeed Cloth Physics may not be included, until Yoshi will clearly state, that next expansion won't cover PS3.
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