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    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    Make it an option for people who can actually use it? I'd like to benefit from my higher end PC parts.
    +1 to this.
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    If they'd also allow long beards, especially Billy Gibbons-style beards, then I'd be cool with cloth physics. Sorry if that didn't make any sense.
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    I don't think FFXV or what ever looks better than FFXIV honestly. And I might be alone in this but I think XV or whatever looks like crap, for a game that's been in the making for 10 years... it should look better than Uncharted 4. And it doesn't even come close to FFXIV honestly. With that said, it would be nice but I think impossible to have more animation in the clothes. Mostly due to the size of XIV. That and any upgrade might have make them rework the engine from the ground up. I dunno tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cammi View Post
    I don't think FFXV or what ever looks better than FFXIV honestly. And I might be alone in this but I think XV or whatever looks like crap, for a game that's been in the making for 10 years... it should look better than Uncharted 4. And it doesn't even come close to FFXIV honestly. With that said, it would be nice but I think impossible to have more animation in the clothes. Mostly due to the size of XIV. That and any upgrade might have make them rework the engine from the ground up. I dunno tho.
    Not ten years XV and Vesus XIII aren't even the same game anymore. Plus they've just now recently patented a new graphics engine for the game so it might look better. plus with XIV's stock animations versus (lol) XV's mocap there's no way it looks better.
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    Would it be possible to have this implemented for just our character? We see our own character way more than we see other people's, and personally I could care less if someone else's sleeve is fluttering in the wind, but since I will always being seeing my own armor, it would be nice to see it be a bit more... alive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cammi View Post
    And I might be alone in this but I think XV or whatever looks like crap, for a game that's been in the making for 10 years... it should look better than Uncharted 4.
    You just said it yourself - TEN YEARS! That means that at least some of the design or system is a decade old. That's one of the issues with FFXIV too in my opinion, it's using an engine that's from 2007 (Crystal Tools) which itself began creation in 2005 for FFXIV on DX 9.0c.

    FFXV was going to be on the same engine but is now on Luminous Studio - a DX11 based system from 2012. It'll still, theoretically, be graphically 5 years old at release.

    Uncharted 4 is built on Naughty Dog's own engine which is constantly updated to take advantage of every new technology available. Therefore, Uncharted 4 has graphics & an engine that are less than a year old. It will always look better than FFXV & FFXIV which are 5 & 11 years old respectively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    You just said it yourself - TEN YEARS! That means that at least some of the design or system is a decade old. That's one of the issues with FFXIV too in my opinion, it's using an engine that's from 2007 (Crystal Tools) which itself began creation in 2005 for FFXIV on DX 9.0c.

    FFXV was going to be on the same engine but is now on Luminous Studio - a DX11 based system from 2012. It'll still, theoretically, be graphically 5 years old at release.

    Uncharted 4 is built on Naughty Dog's own engine which is constantly updated to take advantage of every new technology available. Therefore, Uncharted 4 has graphics & an engine that are less than a year old. It will always look better than FFXV & FFXIV which are 5 & 11 years old respectively.
    That's my point tho, it's been ten years and they couldn't get the game to look like an actual PS4 game? Maybe comparing it to Uncharted 4 is abit unfair. Maybe. I guess I'm just jaded as hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cammi View Post
    That's my point tho, it's been ten years and they couldn't get the game to look like an actual PS4 game? Maybe comparing it to Uncharted 4 is abit unfair. Maybe. I guess I'm just jaded as hell.
    You... didn't read Culfinrandir's post, did you? O.o because what they're saying is that it's because it's been ten years that they "couldn't get the game to look like an actual PS4 game". Because the framework for the game is more or less determined by when they start working on it -- and if you switch engine to something more up-to-date, you'll often have to recreate a lot of it from scratch.
    (Unless you're like Naughty Dog who went in with a rather different approach altogether and designed their engine with the purpose of continuous updates.)

    You try playing the top games of today on a five- or ten-year-old computer, and see how well that works... (Yes, I guess it's possible if you had a top-notch PC back then, but I'd wager not without tuning down the graphics quality.)
    (Not saying that to be mean in any way, just as an attempt to make a comparison regarding how quickly technology -- and programming -- gets outdated.)


    Regarding this topic in general... It would be awesome if they at least arranged personal cloth physics, as well as softened up a few obvious examples (wide sleeves, wide skirts when lying down, that sort of thing).
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    Quote Originally Posted by cammi View Post
    That's my point tho, it's been ten years and they couldn't get the game to look like an actual PS4 game? Maybe comparing it to Uncharted 4 is abit unfair. Maybe. I guess I'm just jaded as hell.
    Quote Originally Posted by Noxifer View Post
    You... didn't read Culfinrandir's post, did you? O.o because what they're saying is that it's because it's been ten years that they "couldn't get the game to look like an actual PS4 game".

    Again, false information. I just said the game has not been in development for ten years
    Versus XIII and XV are two COMPLETELY different games. People need to stop this meme.
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    Last edited by Yasuhiro; 05-13-2016 at 11:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    You just said it yourself - TEN YEARS! That means that at least some of the design or system is a decade old. That's one of the issues with FFXIV too in my opinion, it's using an engine that's from 2007 (Crystal Tools) which itself began creation in 2005 for FFXIV on DX 9.0c.
    1.0 used Crystal Tool, not ARR. The devs changed the engine for the rebuild.
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