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    Xlantaa's Avatar
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    X'lantaa Lizhashen
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    Dark Knight Lv 90

    Automatic commence fuction for 24 man raids

    It is necesary. This is reaching a completely insane level. Hours and hours of wait, lots of DF pops, but always peope forgeting click the commence button. Queues restarting after one didn't click commence. Hours waiting to enter a raid and no tools to avoid this. Just wait, wait and wait till all the 24 guysclick the commence button.

    This is most a vent post, but also, I will suggest this. For desesperate problem, desesperate solutions.

    Automatic commence for those who don't click the commence button after the 45 seconds. It is always 1 or 2 players. We can go with this two guys AFK, It doesn't matter due to the terrible low level required. We can go just inside with those AFK. I don't care if this two guys are all the run AFK (The system will kick them or the party will do it). Of course, onyl f there are few AFK, if ther eare too much, it has no sense, because mechanics like Atomos need more a lot of people.

    But, I think is necesary. This cannot continue. Hours waiting, duty finder poping all the time, but lways one or two person don't click it and all the queue restart from the begginig. Players who wait and click the commence button being punishing because AFk people forget they are in a queue.


    14 pops, always 1 fails on click commence.

    And this is for the Oil... Have to do this 3 times...
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    Last edited by Xlantaa; 05-12-2016 at 01:49 AM.

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    Natashi Tamaruo
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    Unfortunately what if one of the people that don't click is a tank and the slot/slots never gets filled. Now granted that the content you're referring to is baby cakes, faceroll over the keyboard easy. There are parts where, because the developers don't want multiple jobs to do the jobs of others, without a tank it can become problematic.
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    Last edited by Natashio; 05-12-2016 at 02:36 AM.

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    Ryu Saarva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natashio View Post
    Unfortunately what if one of the people that don't click is a tank and the slot/slots never gets filled. Now granted that the content you're referring to is baby cakes, faceroll over the keyboard easy. There are parts where, because the developers don't want multiple jobs to do the jobs of others, without a tank it can become problematic.
    you don't need 3 or 6 tanks for any of these we have so far, especially now when we have equipment which are 50+ item levels too high for them.
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    I don't really understand the way they queue people for raids and dungeons. It seems to me that when you have someone not accept that the queue system reshuffles you back into the system with an entirely new set of people as opposed to keeping the current group together and simply adding whatever role failed to accept. At least that is what my experience seems to show.

    Very frustrating when 23 people are there and one doesn't accept and you then find yourself in a queue with less than half that number.
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    Ashelia Ferron
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    It's actually beneficial, mathematically, to find new members from scratch.

    Here's a hypothetical: Let's say, for simplicity sake, 16/24 people are available and queued as two parties. Then a 6 man party and a 2 man party queue up. But the 2 man party has one member AFK so they fail to commerce.

    If they kept everything there, then you'd only be seeking two people (either a two man party or two individuals). It would also restrict those two as whatever roles you are missing.

    So if a full 8 man party queued, or a 5/3 PSU split, or 4/4, or 4 pairs of 2 that don't have the missing specific roles you need, they would automatically be ignored because you're looking SPECIFICALLY for whatever failed to commence.

    The current system would just match the available parties to try to prioritize the people who queued the earliest.
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    Ashelia Ferron
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    Oh and to add: the only way "saving the party" would work is if you couldn't queue for multiple duties at the same time. Because if you have almost everyone for one duty but then fill up another, what takes priority?
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    Ayaminae Yirien
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Very frustrating when 23 people are there and one doesn't accept and you then find yourself in a queue with less than half that number.
    ^ This. It's especially frustrating when the queue pops within ~3 mins, someone withdraws/doesn't click, then you're back to the end of the queue and end up sitting for 30+ mins...
    I've even had it where it was a full pt, reserving instance, then suddenly everyone was gone in the queue except me and two dps, didn't even pop up to withdraw. Stuff like that makes me wonder if the system replaced me and those two dps and just let the rest of the pt go in.


    Also, for those people who spam withdraw because they're not getting in progress. Stop that. You're causing other people to have longer queues / get thrown to the back of the line.
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    Shiki Lockhart
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    If that happened you wouldn't have 1 or 2 AFK but more, just saying...
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    I'd be for it, I am sure a fair amount of people are clicking that "In progress" button for the towers. Even if you go in with half a group those who are AFK will be kicked or booted and I can only assume quickly replaced with the single people going solo. However also as stated, they are fairly easy and could probably be done with just 16 people now if it wasn't for some gimmicks like Labyrnth and the pads.
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    you don't need 3 or 6 tanks for any of these we have so far, especially now when we have equipment which are 50+ item levels too high for them.
    Just because you're overgeared doesn't mean everyone else is.
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