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    WolfKid's Avatar
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    Evan White
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 70

    That weird feeling after a nerf

    So a week or few, I read that they nerfed A6S. I didn\\'t care much since I don\\'t do savage. I laughed a bit to the reactions i see of it being nerfed. But then I remembered Steps of Faith. The uniqueness of that fight, and with no knowledge it was a rather difficult experience. With the stubbornness of other players I was with in DF, we were able to clear it in the few hours it was released. It wasn\\'t that difficult. Then again it was high for the MSQline. Later it got nerfed hard. After running it again, I\\'ve grown to dislike the trial and feel slightly screwed when it got dumbed down. That weird feeling stood with me after that. Is this how Raiders felt when they beat A6S, only to see it get nerfed later?
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    Spawnie Lionheart
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    Odin
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    steps is a snoozefest now its way to easy these days
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    Yuni Captain
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    Brynhildr
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by WolfKid View Post
    But then I remembered Steps of Faith. The uniqueness of that fight, and with no knowledge it was a rather difficult experience.
    xD Made my day. 6/10 Steps are still Vote Abandon after 15 min xD

    So they will faster give even easier content than harder.
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    randysquirrel's Avatar
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    Phoenix Silver
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    Odin
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    Alchemist Lv 60
    Steps was different as it was MSQ (as you point out), so everyone had to do it to progress the storyline, and a large portion of the playerbase couldn't handle a fight where mechanics couldn't be ignored. A sad state of affairs, but I understand why they nerfed it.

    A6S was only being attempted by a few anyway, and raiders are expecting to be challenged, so the nerf was a bit of a surprise, and, speaking only for myself, I didn't so much complain about the nerf as feel a bit disappointed. We were quite close to clearing, and just tightening up the last few runs. We have since cleared post-nerf, so I guess maybe our group was the exact sort of people they implemented the nerf for, but it was still a bit disappointing that we never got the clear before.

    Think they were overly nervous they'd have another A3 on their hands, which did break groups, and there was a lot of other weird fallout with people moving servers and stuff trying to find groups
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    Whocareswhatmynameis's Avatar
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    Fate Bringer
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    Yea I hate how the game is built only for the worst 20% players and the best 2% of players... Meanwhile they keep watching thier fans unsub lol...
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    Moonlight Delkirk
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    Balmung
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    I sorta know what you mean. I noticed with when I got Ultros fight earlier this week. They changed Typhon's mega sneeze move. It no longer knocks everyone out of the ring so no more auto fail for not doing a mechanic. It's.. like "yay" i don't have to lose 30min on this now, but.. newer players will never know the joy of the fight the way it originally was.
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Michiko View Post
    I sorta know what you mean. I noticed with when I got Ultros fight earlier this week. They changed Typhon's mega sneeze move. It no longer knocks everyone out of the ring so no more auto fail for not doing a mechanic. It's.. like "yay" i don't have to lose 30min on this now, but.. newer players will never know the joy of the fight the way it originally was.
    It doesn't? Are you sure someone didn't preemptively jump out in order to save everyone else? If I know the imps don't have enough stacks, or one of them simply cannot follow instructions, I'll just jump out before the sneeze. The stun wears off as the sneeze comes out so I jump back in as everyone else flies out.
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    Jimjo Cetra
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    Odin
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Michiko View Post
    They changed Typhon's mega sneeze move. It no longer knocks everyone out of the ring so no more auto fail for not doing a mechanic.
    They did that, because the mechanic did work even worse then when it was implemented. They have a move that evens out the health between the 2 bosses. With the high dmg output today (even when synched) this mechanic is used often right after people get the imp buff. This results in a problem because the imp buffs runs out before you even get the chance to use the stacks on typhoon. This resulted in death even if you played the machanic correctly. Its kinda like the old EX-primals where you are always punished by instant death for too high damage output.
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    Eva Gamirdren
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    Ultros
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    Archer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    It doesn't? Are you sure someone didn't preemptively jump out in order to save everyone else? If I know the imps don't have enough stacks, or one of them simply cannot follow instructions, I'll just jump out before the sneeze. The stun wears off as the sneeze comes out so I jump back in as everyone else flies out.
    They nerfed it. I did it recently in roulette and didn't get knocked off when I was standing under Typhon.

    As for Steps, I think the real problem with it was that there was no way to reset a bad run. People would leave immediately when they got it in Trial Roulette since it took longer than everything else in there so new players wouldn't even get a chance to try.
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    Kai Lee
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 70
    With all these nerf to trials and dungeons, what I don't understand is why is it so hard to follow instructions. I mean with the typhoon fight you only need 8 stacks which means 1 of the 4 dps can have zero stacks or die and its still doable.
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