PVP Thoughts and Suggestions!

[Nalien]

wolf marks for gil

This is the issue I have with PvP rewards... Titles and mounts are nice and all, but Wolf Marks should be the main reward, but it's just very lackluster...

It's like dungeon gear... OK, sometimes there are a few good sets you might want for Glamour, but I can't think of many people going out of their way to farm dungeons for gear to trade in for GC Seals or for Desynthesis... No, that gear isn't what keeps dungeons alive, the tomestone rewards are, and that's what Wolf Marks should effectively be IMO...

[Zojha]

No, that gear isn't what keeps dungeons alive, the tomestone rewards are, and that's what Wolf Marks should effectively be IMO...

The concept is hard to translate however. Tomestones, especially the most recent one people actually care about, provide gear progression, something wolf marks used to via morale rating, but that only turned people away from PvP because where in PvE, playing with someone in better gear is beneficial to you, in PvP, you compete with them, thus making it detrimental. That's how we ended up with these awkward materias and pointless morale.

In addition, wolf marks are not weekly capped and as such, rewards for it can at best be comparable to esoteric tomes, the most recent uncapped tomestone. Otherwise PvP would be the only place where the progression gating can be circumvented, which is likely not in SEs interest. As such, you are left with outdated gear and fluff like minions, orchestrion rolls and furnishings, maybe a few crafting mats you can offer. Do you think that would suffice to make it the main reward? I'm fairly sceptical. Plus, as I said, I remain of the opinion that the main issue is the gameplay, not the rewards - intrinsic motivation beats extrinsic motivation any day. But maybe I just studied human resource management too long >_>

[Nalien]

Plus, as I said, I remain of the opinion that the main issue is the gameplay, not the rewards - intrinsic motivation beats extrinsic motivation any day. But maybe I just studied human resource management too long >_>

Well, I'm not saying they shouldn't improve the gameplay of PvP, I just see that as a fairly big task, meanwhile improving Wolf Mark rewards should be fairly simple. Slap materia and most of what you can get with Poetics/Esoterics and Wolf Marks become a really great reward, more so considering you're getting Esoterics as well...