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    And have all those Kiritos' use it to "shout" out their attack names? No thanks
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    I would definitely like this choice (also in general), and if people are so afraid of having their screen cluttered in chat bubbles (so many phobias in this game...), make it so that we can take it off at will

    But I did hear it was a data issue so who knows, they might do it only in the later future. Or never.
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    Last edited by Voltyblast; 05-13-2016 at 11:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltyblast View Post
    I would definitely like this choice (also in general), and if people are so afraid of having their screen cluttered in chat bubbles (so many phobias in this game...), make it so that we can take it off at will

    But I did hear it was a data issue so who knows, they might do it only in the later future. Or never.
    It's not so much a phobia, as much as it is people knowing what will happen with it because of what already happens with the chat box macros. Some people feel a need to macro every. single. skill with sound effects, text crap, emotes, etc. it gets hella spammy as it is, and this would only make things worse overall
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilitsa View Post
    It's not so much a phobia, as much as it is people knowing what will happen with it because of what already happens with the chat box macros. Some people feel a need to macro every. single. skill with sound effects, text crap, emotes, etc. it gets hella spammy as it is, and this would only make things worse overall
    Even to the point of disregarding an idea before even implementing "for fear of abuse"? I mean we don't have it, we can't know what would happen, but people are already saying it can be potentially "abusive" (in this case, risk of spam).

    You don't know yet! Infact for all we know all of this "risk of spam" might never happen. Hence, having more like a "fear" than an actual "concern".

    This is a very recurrent "mentality" in the game, so much that it just feels like phobia at this point. Don't want parser because abuse, don't want team roulette because of abuse (which is now removed, thankfully), don't want bubbles because spam abuse.

    If at least there were some actual true reasoning behind "why it's a bad idea" instead of immediately disregarding it as "potential for abuse". I mean sure it can get spammy so hey, just make an option to remove. Don't have to NOT put it all together. Same for many other features really but this is what it seems to be for the most part: disregard because it can be abused.

    I dunno, maybe I'm just too pessimistic at this point so, just nevermind me but I did feel like giving my two cents on a relatively harmless feature...
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    Last edited by Voltyblast; 05-14-2016 at 04:24 AM.

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    If majority of people will turn it off I don't really see the point in it and I would rather they not waste time on it. I personally wouldn't want this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    If majority of people will turn it off I don't really see the point in it and I would rather they not waste time on it. I personally wouldn't want this.
    And the proof you have that the "majority of people" would turn it off is...where?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zipzo View Post
    And the proof you have that the "majority of people" would turn it off is...where?
    I'm saying this based on past experience in other games which have chat bubbles and i have played quite a lot of MMOs and most people dislike it because it just gets in the way on the screen. There is a reason why most games don't do it anymore.

    Also based on what some people have said in the thread how they wouldn't mind it but they would like to have the choice to turn it off I can make a good assumption that majority of people will share the same opinion and people have asked for this in the past and it gets buried in other threads and forgotten because people generally don't care for chat bubbles that just get in the way.

    If people are going to turn it off I don't see the point in investing resources to make this possible. I am sure people don't want to see someone spamming an ability with a quote continuously appearing on their screen it gets annoying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    I'm saying this based on past experience in other games which have chat bubbles and i have played quite a lot of MMOs and most people dislike it because it just gets in the way on the screen. There is a reason why most games don't do it anymore.

    Also based on what some people have said in the thread how they wouldn't mind it but they would like to have the choice to turn it off I can make a good assumption that majority of people will share the same opinion and people have asked for this in the past and it gets buried in other threads and forgotten because people generally don't care for chat bubbles that just get in the way.

    If people are going to turn it off I don't see the point in investing resources to make this possible. I am sure people don't want to see someone spamming an ability with a quote continuously appearing on their screen it gets annoying.
    ...but that's exactly the point. If you don't like it, you turn it off.

    I personally like chat bubbles and in fact I still remember being a bit confused as to why FFXIV neglected to have them when I started up so many years ago.

    Plenty of games give you the option, and I'd consider ARR to be of the modern generation enough that it's capable of providing the option.

    Under your logic games shouldn't have colorblind options either, because a lot of people would keep them off. To me chat bubbles provide advantages from a communication standpoint, I really believe they should be a staple.
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    This is probably a waste of time because most will either complain constantly or turn it off equaling in wasted dev, besides I'm pretty sure most of us have been in a DF with a rper whos every macro is 3 lines long with ASCII moogles and Berserk macro complete with a countdown.
    It seems like macros already serve this purpose and chat bubbles will just make it more annoying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    If majority of people will turn it off I don't really see the point in it and I would rather they not waste time on it. I personally wouldn't want this.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crescents View Post
    This is probably a waste of time because most will either complain constantly or turn it off equaling in wasted dev, besides I'm pretty sure most of us have been in a DF with a rper whos every macro is 3 lines long with ASCII moogles and Berserk macro complete with a countdown.
    It seems like macros already serve this purpose and chat bubbles will just make it more annoying.
    Pretty much this. The idea of it sounds interesting at first until it actually gets implemented into the game, only for the majority to get sick of it eventually and shut it off.
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