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    Emin's Avatar
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    Emin Thonal
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    Ultros
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    Bard Lv 70

    Why does the Gold Needle even exist?

    This is getting rather silly, it doesn't work on ANYTHING.

    By chance i got one from a quick venture and had it hanging around in my inventory, then a while later decided to do void ark. Fast forward, last boss, healer gets hit by petrify of course. So I'm thinking: Hey this is my chance to ACTUALLY USE this item and save the healer.

    No effect. Nothing. "GOLD NEEDLE has no effect"



    I can understand it not working on super petrify in stuff such as A5S, Old turn 7 and savage (yes i tried way back when), laideronette etc or even raid petrify (nerfed t7).

    But a 7 second NORMAL petrification in VOID ARK not cleansable by an item designed to do only that?

    Please can you just remove this item or make certain consumable items not bad? I don't see why they should be existing if they don't work on anything.
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    MomomiMomi's Avatar
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    Momomi Momi
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Yep. Have never found any situation in which it worked.
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Warrior Lv 100
    We can't have mechanics beaten with ITEMS! What madness!
    But for real, it would be nice to see items have some use.
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    Morningstar1337's Avatar
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    Aurora Aura
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    Exodus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Same reason the Phoenix Down exists OP. Granfather Clause caused by the name of the game, Its a Final Fantasy Title, it has to have Gole needles, Antidotes an Phoenix Downs. Plus It would cheese the fights where petrification is a thing.
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    Chloe Grace
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    It's not just this item.

    Spine drops don't work on 51+ paralysis, nor WoD chimera paralyzing voice.
    Antidotes work in some 50 dungeons, but usually it's wasted.

    The fact that these items work not just at all, but inconsistently makes them utterly useless.

    I wish they would add potent versions of everything and make it work on raid-level status effects. Make alchemy useful beyond stat boosts and mana/health pots (oh, but hey, they have f***ing sheet music now! /s)

    Edit: need alchemy reraise effects, too.
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    Last edited by ChloeGrace; 05-12-2016 at 12:59 PM.

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    Key Burz
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Gold needle is for level 50 mobs and below. Has almost no use. Good time to use it is on tank on first trash pull pack 3 of labyrinth of the ancients, if he gets hit by petrify from the ahrimans. Other then that I have never seen any other use. Yes you are correct, they are pretty much useless, like the elemental materia.
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    Yasuhiro's Avatar
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    Marie Antoinette
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    Kujata
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    - Make a Final Fantasy title
    - include iconic items that don't do anything
    The absolute mad man, for what purpose?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChloeGrace View Post
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    Speaking of inconsistencies and status effects, why can consussion in Anti Tower be Esuna'd but not concussion in Alexander Midas 5? It's the same status effect, same icon, player animation when under the effect is the same. Can this game just stop doing shit like that changing its own rules? for things you absolutely cannot remove they should change the colour of the icon. No other FF game is as inconsistent as this game with stuff like this.
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    Last edited by Yasuhiro; 05-13-2016 at 05:35 PM.

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    Emin Thonal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasuhiro View Post
    Speaking of inconsistencies and status effects, why can concussion in Anti Tower be Esuna'd but not concussion in Alexander Midas 5? It's the same status effect, same icon, player animation when under the effect is the same. Can this game just stop doing shit like that changing its own rules? for things you absolutely cannot remove they should change the colour of the icon. No other FF game is as inconsistent as this game with stuff like this.
    I don't mind this one but different colour icons would be nice. Trying everything once or twice including esuna is part of the fun of progression.
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    Worked in T1 if someone got petrified from the trash mobs but that's the last I remember seeing it used.
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    Shiva Majaak
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    White Mage Lv 56
    Worked yesterday on a player who got petrified by an A rank hunt mob (ARR), so it seems to work with "level 50 mobs and below" as keyburz said.
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