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    Destous's Avatar
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    Oni On
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 60

    PLD cross class abilities suck

    This is what I'd like to see available for PLD cross class:

    CNJ:
    Esuna


    Marauder:
    Thrill of Battle


    Cure is useless. Raise is useless. Fracture is useless. Skull Sunder is useless. Protect is somewhat pointless/redundant.
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    Kori Fleming
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Well. At least your title was correct.
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    Oni On
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Well. At least your title was correct.
    There's really not much to pull from CNJ without changing PLD to heal based off STR/VIT instead of MND.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    IMO the entire cross class skill system is a fucking joke. Look at FF3/FF5/FF Tactics and even Bravely series and FF Explorers. That's how you do it.

    In here they just limit your options.
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    Goffard Gaffgarion
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 73
    I've reached the point where I'm ready for cross-class skills to be removed entirely.

    If 4.0 will not have a level increase, then maybe that is an opportunity to remove cross-class skills entirely and replace them with 5 unique abilities for each job. Obviously, some of the new abilities will be reskins of essential formers, like WAR and DRK needing their own versions of Provoke. Every class that gets Blood For Blood or other performance-essential cross-class skills would need a suitable replacement as well.

    (it's worth mentioning that other jobs also suffer from crap cross-class selections, so it'd be an opportunity not just for PLD, but many classes to get their fair share of **5** *useful* abilities)

    But with skill bloat being a factor for many players, it's likely some skills are going to be made redundant in w/e solution SE is planning to address that.

    And if that's the case, I hope it'd be the 5 cross class skills.
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    Last edited by Xenosan; 05-09-2016 at 10:07 AM.

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    Enkidoh Roux
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    The whole point of cross class abilities being limited is that was the trade-off for equipping a Job crystal, the five extra cross class abilities you lost were replaced by your Job abilities. Granted the selection of cross class abilities is also limited (and I agree a couple might be somewhat redundant), but even some of the 'useless' ones do have their niches (myself I still find Protect very useful and even Cure and Raise have their niches in low level content such as FATEs or Hunts).

    Esuna not being usable by PLD is probably to counterbalance the Job and also to keep a little uniqueness to CNJ/WHM - it would also make PLD too overpowered. Remember, balance is key, for good or for ill.
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    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Player Violette's Avatar
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    Eonkhui Malaguld
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Yes but compared to swiftcast and blood for blood, every cross class is pretty bad.
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    Arawn Wymer
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    Omega
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    WTF. Esuna? XDD. Holy .... I'm not sure if the OP is serious or not. I seriously cracked up, and it made my day. Thanks.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Eh I just hate that pretty much you really only have 1-2 useful skills out of the 2 trees of 5 you have to select. And for tanks all the tanks are pretty much forced with GLD just for Provoke and Convalescence.
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    Matthias Gendrin
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Esuna would be nice for PLD instead of Cure. At least Esuna doesn't rely on MND to be effective.

    I'd also think that switching Skull Sunder for Thrill of Battle or Berserk would be much better choices for PLD.

    If you don't count TP, Fracture is a DPS gain for PLD until you get Goring Blade, and Protect is worth taking so you can throw it on someone recently rezzed to save healers a cast (assuming you have downtime).
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