Thoughts on a new dps class

[Tanathya]

Snip.

Well said, all of it. After seeing what they did to DRK, one can expect anything as long as it doesn't require much effort, which is the only reason why I can see SAM introduced as a tank. Even if it was a DD, it wouldn't change my mind as to what I think of what they're doing and how they're handling things so far.

[Yasuhiro]

Exactly where did this this idea that Blue Mages are synonymous with swords come from?

The game it originated from
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/B...l_Fantasy_V%29

Unlike most other spellcasting jobs, Blue Mages can wield not only the common spellcaster equipment, but also swords and shields, giving them more offense and defense than a regular mage.

I believe in that game that's pretty much the only thing they can equip, not played V in a while. I have a hard time imagining what a Blue Mage and Red Mage would play like in this game since they both have swords and can cast long range magic, might be my "disturbing lack of imagination" as some people here put it.

Wouldn't it be neat if they took some notes from Quistis Trepe's weaponary though? a mid-range weapon like a whip for the Blue Mage would be great.

[Teirdalin]

People who want RDM as a DPS almost always claim that it's because they want a swordmage, which is the strongest identity that BLU can lay claim to..

How in the world would people even think that? If anything red mage is more suited as a sword-mage of the two listed there, as they can actually equip armor. (as well as heavy armor) But if people -really- wanted a sword mage-> mystic knight.

[DWolfwood]

How in the world would people even think that? If anything red mage is more suited as a sword-mage of the two listed there, as they can actually equip armor. (as well as heavy armor) But if people -really- wanted a sword mage-> mystic knight.

Maybe because of this:



and this:



What does equipping armor have to do with being a sword mage anyways? Wouldn't that just be a DRK or PLD? BLU uses magic from enemies, so just give them swords and continue to establish one of the two predominant images of them. Problem solved. In fact, it would be neat to see them use AF from both of these pictures.

[Kazrah]

How in the world would people even think that? If anything red mage is more suited as a sword-mage of the two listed there, as they can actually equip armor. (as well as heavy armor) But if people -really- wanted a sword mage-> mystic knight.

When you look at more of the iconic version of RDM, it's far less "sword-mage" than just a mage that happens to have a sword. Yes, it had melee, and yes, it had magic, but they were always always ALWAYS kept separated and distinguished. How that might translate into FFXIV could likely be blend of general spellcaster and use melee combos to regenerate MP along with having more support skills like some alternate form of Bloodbath where it'd heal allies while dealing damage and have Doublecast as a damage cooldown.

Although when you think about it, all these interpretations of RDM could go right into the storyline of a magical soldier shrouded in myth and legend.

[Anienai]

I think they should scrap Red Mage and bring back BEASTMASTER!

[Teirdalin]

When I think of red mages, I think of this video. They don't have as high damage output as say a black mage, and don't have as high healing as a white mage; considering the classes are forced into roles, I think their convert power, survivability spells, and the fact they can wear heavy armor, shields and swords; would make them a perfect magic-tank class, with actual ranged AoE enmity powers and magical defense. (I'm looking at you ice sprites!) Plus they already have the black mage's umbral ice and astral fire buffs which thematically would work perfectly for the OT and MT buffs if slightly modified; enchanting your armor with umbral ice or your blade with umbral fire, especially considering if there was reliance on Convert (Swaps current HP with MP.)

For the new DPS I would like to see beastmaster, samurai, geomancer, mime, pupper master, gambler or blue mage, although I can't really see it work unless most of their attacks were pretty much flavor effects. (probably in that order)

Beastmaster would be a very fun class to have, and could potentially use a whip weapon; although the main issue I see with it is that square would probably need to make pet types for each animal; with balanced skills and abilities for every one. And that would be quite a bit of work.

Samurai is already covered- everywhere extensively.

Geomancer; AoE damage, AoE DoTs, AoE Buffs, Traps, etc. This can be a very fun class, and the main CC dps.

I can see mime probably having it's basic three attacks be random other classes attacks, or the targets attacks (but just glamour, it'd still deal the normal set damage and everything), with a special ability called Mimic to pay attention to a party member, and copy whatever actions, and movements they preform. (probably a mime would stack near that member.) The way the mime LB could work is to mime someone who is preforming LB, and it would do just a fraction of the damage.

Pupper Master exists in the lore as a non-playable class in Eorzea, and seems rather popular by people; only problem I can think of really is that the puppet master himself is too similar to a puglist in the way he fights. Perhaps if all his attacks were done from the puppet itself; with a way to control the puppets position exactly, it could work.

Gambler would be a totally luck-based class of course, slots obviously would be their primary ability; but I cannot really see that working for the standard combo; so unsure how they can be implemented.

Blue mage; I honestly would like a blue mage, but just about no enemies in this game have all that unique abilities, yes some do, but most abilities just boil down to cone-damage, or single target-damage. Perhaps if you were able to pick and choose the glamour of your spell attacks that could be cool, or to gain only the unique creature abilities, like when those little dragons fire the AoE at you during Svara.

[Anienai]

For the new DPS I would like to see beastmaster,

Man love.

[Xlantaa]

Samurai -> Tank
Blue Mage -> DPS
Red Mage -> Healer

On the anniversary event, they talk about "blue", "red" and "Samurai" I think it was a hint.

[Alexftw]

Yeah and then blue mages, yellow mages, pink mages, violet mages, green mages.

I personally want to reroll gray mage (a mix between blm and whm).