Red Mage as a Hybrid DPS

[DandyK]

I originally posted this on reddit and got some good feedback, so I decided I should share my concept of RDM on here too.

The full concept design is too long to post on here, so here's a link to the full document:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

The Doc includes information on basic skills, play style, and rotation & ability explanation.

Here's some basic info on the proposed RDM concept:

RDM is a caster dps with a melee stance that relies on a basic 1-2-3 combo while also executing a DoT->Finisher combo and keeping a vulnerability debuff up. A master RDM will be able to maximize dps by determining which stance is better suited for specific phases in a boss fight while also carefully managing his MP and TP.

Hope you guys take a look at my job design. Leave your thoughts and criticisms below.

[Powe]

Personally, It seems like a mix with an AST, BRD and SCH ( The hastaga and alike seem like a sch's Selene ). It seems nice but seems like a sch( Or smn's Dots with fester) but with a sword ( Damage wise) maybe ( this what I see a rdm should be so you're free to ignore this part) try to keep the rdm more as a job that can change to 3 different play styles. The hastaga and such can be on the whm side though add some heal spells, the blm side should be the more aoe inducer portion, maybe make it similar to the actual blm rotation, and the physical attacker needs to be when you're in a fight where theres ton of moving required or you dont have enough mp.

[DWolfwood]

Where's the healing magic? It just doesn't seem like RDM to me unless it also has white magic.

[Hayward]

It appears you've put more thought into the idea than anyone would have expected (the melee-to-caster mode is unique, though I'd suspect the execution would be difficult to pull off in practice). Some limited healing abilities would complete the picture--enough to survive yet not so much as to step on the real healers' toes.

[ADVSS]

I dig this as something i really would like to see in a red mage, two diffeing things from my version would be you wouldnt need to switch int with str just make rapiers deal magic damage(ill tell you why in a second) Actually yeah have it change the weapon to magic attack instead of physical damage type, this would also help with any healing(i assume youre thinking of having arcanist or conjurer as at least one cross class for it, and double cast could work as a big spot heal and nothing more)

blink is really cool idea, i had an idea for a gap closer on a short, plunge like cooldown that was enemy targetable, but had two different uses for the same skill. first if you were away from the mob a certain distance it would act like plunge, or shoulder tackle, etc, however, to get into caster position if you were close to the enemy itd do the archer back jump or something like dragoons elusive jump to put you a distance for casting spells. All in all, if redmage comes close to what you described i would very much enjoy it

[Morningstar1337]

Where's the healing magic? It just doesn't seem like RDM to me unless it also has white magic.

At last the idea has a Conjury elements

Regardless, Since I think Spellfencer is gonna be merged with RDM anyway, I feel like this is a good concept, and lets be honest, I don't think SE is willing to have a class like RDM without some aspect of it getting the shaft (in fact I think they will likely split RDM into two different jobs because of the holy trinity)

To the OP: I would remove the -ga suffix and maybe ad a Wind attack as part of the combo, in a similar vein to Twin Snakes or Maim NVM seem you have that covered, but a Wind Combo attack would be nice.

Actually, come to think of it. why not Have the Combo Moves interact with Tornado, granting it different effects, like a Firewhirl to buff Ignite, or channeling lightning to paralyze the targets?

[DWolfwood]

At last the idea has a Conjury elements

Regardless, Since I think Spellfencer is gonna be merged with RDM anyway, I feel like this is a good concept, and lets be honest, I don't think SE is willing to have a class like RDM without some aspect of it getting the shaft (in fact I think they will likely split RDM into two different jobs because of the holy trinity)

Yeah, I just see it on the healer side since healers can also DPS rather well and psuedo-tank.

It needs healing white magic to be called Red Mage. As for a spellblade, I do think we'll get one, but I see Blue Mage fitting that image better. To my knowledge, the only defensive spell I know of for Blue Mage is taken by tanks' LB2, Mighty Guard. Furthermore, while Blue Mage doesn't have a completely solid identity in terms of visual representation, it definitely does not have a defensive/healing identity. It does more often than not have access to devastating enemy spells. Just seems to fit this missing spot much better.

A Red Mage healer would actually be the first true healing job to interest me, so I hope they go with it because I think there are many others out there would be more willing to pick up the healing role if they released Red Mage as it.

[Morningstar1337]

It needs healing white magic to be called Red Mage. As for a spellblade, I do think we'll get one, but I see Blue Mage fitting that image better. To my knowledge, the only defensive spell I know of for Blue Mage is taken by tanks' LB2, Mighty Guard. Furthermore, while Blue Mage doesn't have a completely solid identity in terms of visual representation, it definitely does not have a defensive/healing identity. It does more often than not have access to devastating enemy spells. Just seems to fit this missing spot much better.

Ehh, I find Spellblade more similar to RDM then BLU, haven't really seen anyone channeling say, Bad breath or White Wind through their sword (then there's that whole learning spells from monsters thing)