botting.

[Vesper]

you can tell whos botting or not. its not that hard to tell, Im talking about the guys that you see in the same spot for 10+ hours. I seen a guy once for like 16 hrs in the same spot fishing...kinda obvious lol. But whatever floats ure boat. Me myself, I dont even find that fun, I actually enjoy earning what I have, Makes you value your character more, I just started this game actually but Im gonna enjoy getting all my stats to lvl 50, and the hardwork and effort is what makes you value your character the most. Not items

Not really, some of us are insane enough to fish legit for 16+ hours, I kno I have lol.

[Dallie]

Bots are always going to be around in a game, period. It is partially SE's fault for making the crafting grind so mind-numbingly boring, but it's not like it's tough to just hit enter while catching up on TV shows.

It just seems to me that SE is aware of prevalent botters, and has simply turned a blind eye until the game goes P2P. I see way too many of them nestled in corners where normal crafters wouldn't be.

[DoctorMog]

Yep, personally, on my days off, I enjoyed watching netflix on my other monitory and fishing for 14 hours straight. (Controller is awesome for fishing btw. Invest before you fish to 50)

Might as well do two things at once.

Watching every sing episode of startrek voyager was a bigger accomplishment than getting 50 fishing XD

[Bluetaro]

Would you guys consider it botting if someone had a turbo controller or macro that would spam enter as long as you manually held the button down?

[Sontawila]

Don't know don't care. Crafting/Gathering leveing in this game is an overkill. A few people like it (very few) but the remaining detest it.

I really don't see that big of a deal and most people just minimize the game and keep hitting the controller button.

And NO you cant tell if the guys is botting by simply talking to them. There could be many reasons they didn't respond (not in the mood, didn't pay attention, mindlessly pressing buttons while watching a movie....etc). If they are not using a tool to access game data then this I don't care and neither should you.

[Bluetaro]

I'm emailing SE to find out their stance regarding a device or program that automates spamming the "enter" button as long as the user is there to hold down the key. Their rules and policy seem to be structured more against "absentee playing" and botting and I feel that as long as you are physically there at the computer holding down the button a turbo controller wouldn't be in violation of this.

To be honest, what's the difference to us if someone is at their computer spamming enter versus holding a button down on a turbo controller?

A bot on the other hand, is a whole different issue because it allows the user to be completely away from his PC and still gain from it. This defeats the spirit of fair play and shouldn't be allowed.

[Vestara_Khai]

This defeats the spirit of fair play and shouldn't be allowed.

It's not allowed. . .

[indira]

botting is in every online game. and there obvious to spot out they just sit there at gathering nodes or in town crafting. send the a tell or ten and they wont respond.

I have often wondered if people assume I am botting - I am definitely not. Crafting is tedious at times and I highly doubt that nearly as many people are truly botting as are suspected of doing so.

most of them are botting after the bot is out of mats they just sit there in there synth kneel.

[Fullmetal]

Don't get me wrong with what I said earlier. Yeah, I'm not paying attention to the game, but I am still manually pressing the button. I'm just playing the game blind. Any actual bots should be dealt with (banned or otherwise) and this includes turbo-controlling and going afk.

I find your logic extremely hard to understand. You say bots should be dealt with for using a turbo controller???
If your time has any value at all, and you had a turbo controller, you would indeed be using it instead of sitting there like a monkey hitting a single button for hours on end. The crafting system is this game is arguably the most tedious and uninteresting of all systems ever invented in mmo game history and is simply not intended for humans. I wouldn't feel guilty in the slightest bit for using a turbo controller. And you are right, I see people craft botting constantly, and rightfully so.

[Fullmetal]

I'm emailing SE to find out their stance regarding a device or program that automates spamming the "enter" button as long as the user is there to hold down the key. Their rules and policy seem to be structured more against "absentee playing" and botting and I feel that as long as you are physically there at the computer holding down the button a turbo controller wouldn't be in violation of this.

To be honest, what's the difference to us if someone is at their computer spamming enter versus holding a button down on a turbo controller?

A bot on the other hand, is a whole different issue because it allows the user to be completely away from his PC and still gain from it. This defeats the spirit of fair play and shouldn't be allowed.

You are just blurring the lines here. If you followed your own logic through completely, it would imply there is no difference between using a turbo controller or using a bot.