botting.

[Zeref]

I use auto walk a lot and go to get a drink, come back to find my chocobo has been walking into a wall for 30 minutes or so, I wonder if people ever think i'm using a really stupid bot.

[Destain]

I'm almost to my first fifty craft. Crafting is borIng. I do get sense of accomplishment from ranking up and I do feel good when I can help out my LS mates.

There is a huge bottin problem. You can't identify a bot as a player with 100% accuracy, but when I catch players crafting and unresponsive in instanced events or someone doing the same on a random far off point in the map, there is no greater evidence of someone trying to hide their shame. I would really like to be able to call a GM and have them investigate the player. I know there would be a lot of false reports, but people who do it the right way feel wronged otherwise. I am one of those people.

You other achievements in the game dont mean squat if your using gear you made from a botted craft. Shame on you, you WILL get urs.


Happy gamin'

[Zeref]

when I catch players crafting and unresponsive in instanced events or someone doing the same on a random far off point in the map, there is no greater evidence of someone trying to hide their shame.'

Yeah, how about no, I might not spend much time on my weaver, but when I do, I usually tuck away at one of the corners in the black shroud or in an instanced area where i can keep the lag to a minimum, and I'm sure i'm not the only player that avoids area with traffic, just because you made up some small set of rules for yourself doesn't mean the rest of us are included in it.

[Hachiko]

I'm almost to my first fifty craft. Crafting is borIng. I do get sense of accomplishment from ranking up and I do feel good when I can help out my LS mates.

There is a huge bottin problem. You can't identify a bot as a player with 100% accuracy, but when I catch players crafting and unresponsive in instanced events or someone doing the same on a random far off point in the map, there is no greater evidence of someone trying to hide their shame. I would really like to be able to call a GM and have them investigate the player. I know there would be a lot of false reports, but people who do it the right way feel wronged otherwise. I am one of those people.

You other achievements in the game dont mean squat if your using gear you made from a botted craft. Shame on you, you WILL get urs.


Happy gamin'

Some people like to not craft in main cities because it cuts down a lot of the latency both server side (ui lag) as well as improving performance in general. I always prefer to craft in secluded / instanced areas because not only does it go faster for me because the ui is more responsive, but i have less issues with huge lag spikes.

It's cool that you think because you have a 50 you're fit to judge people on this issue, but you need to be better at thinking critically before actually passing judgment.

Once the game makes it more rewarding to actually craft, rather than minimize the game and mash on a single button on a controller, then they can start worrying about botting. But as it is, when the most effective way to exp a DoH job is to do something that mimics the most simple automation (pressing enter, or a button, over and over), there is little room to punish people for doing that and not being responsive.

[MANTASTIC]

I'm almost to my first fifty craft. Crafting is borIng. I do get sense of accomplishment from ranking up and I do feel good when I can help out my LS mates.

There is a huge bottin problem. You can't identify a bot as a player with 100% accuracy, but when I catch players crafting and unresponsive in instanced events or someone doing the same on a random far off point in the map, there is no greater evidence of someone trying to hide their shame. I would really like to be able to call a GM and have them investigate the player. I know there would be a lot of false reports, but people who do it the right way feel wronged otherwise. I am one of those people.

You other achievements in the game dont mean squat if your using gear you made from a botted craft. Shame on you, you WILL get urs.


Happy gamin'

You should probably take a step back and read what you wrote.

Your argument is essentially "I put up with this shitty system so others should have to as well! /angryface!!!!11"

[Mirh]

I suppose in Destain's logic, crafting in Merchant Ward to escape the grating, by now absolutely repulsive Halloween music in Ul'dah so you don't grit your teeth to the root while repetitively pressing enter is grounds for a ban. (No, why mute the music when the game has GOOD music elsewhere?)

Everything happens because the design encourages it. If some of your crafters aren't strewn out in the middle of the walkway like some kind of crazy crack den with people you have to step over, but instead, are off secluded and against the norm, maybe it's a combination of efficiency and perhaps that people just don't like contributing to the thoughtlessness of other crafters (how many have us accidentally kneeled on another crafter only to jerk back up and feel horrible for blocking their vision once they load)

Nope, botters. Filthy dirty botters not crafting around an NPC!

[ellohwell]

I use auto walk a lot and go to get a drink, come back to find my chocobo has been walking into a wall for 30 minutes or so, I wonder if people ever think i'm using a really stupid bot.

You can't see other players running on the same spot, they just appear stationary. I realise you probably know this and were just making a joke, but I have to increase my post count somehow, amirite?

[Neasa]

There will always be botters, no matter how "easy" things are made.
And SE will always ignore 99% of them, it seems. -.-

[Destain]

Wow, who would of thought expressing your opinion on a thread that asks for your opinion would result in so much rage?!

Anyways, you may have just skimmed my post. So I'll try and use my tiny stupid brain to answer all your responses in one go.

I never said that crafting in an isolated area or instanced location, like a mission, was proof of booting, but combined with a non responsive player only someone that is hiding their shame wouldn't admit it looks suspect. Yes, if I had to do it the honest way I am going to not like people that cheat, how is that wrong? It's not like I said crafting is fun and shouldn't be improved.

And I apologize, i should have been clearing that when I say evidence, I meant to me. Like I said there is no way to tell if a player is a bot. Only SE can determine that. It's just my perception of the situation.

Go ahead and selectively pick and choose individual sentences from a thread and ignore the context. That's up to you. If you want to spend your time jumping on people for having an opinion on an opinion thread be ready to be busy for every minute of every hour of every day of every year of every decade... You get the point. I guess i just don't understand saying that I think I'm cool cus I have rank 50, which I explicitly said for crafting I'm only close to. It's almost like you can't read, but that's can't be right. Your on forums after all.

[kensredemption]

Eh...I don't care for statistics either way. All botting does is damage someone's credibility as a "hardcore" player. I'm 32 as a Lancer at the moment, and while the botting may help I find it more fulfilling to get up to the level cap by myself. Not once have I taken part in an EXP party, and in truth it'll be even more monotonous than grinding away solo. Until the new class/job/discipline progression system is in place: I'll just keep killing more sheep, antelopes, monkeys and wolves.