botting.

[DeathSaint]

Ive been seeing alot of this latley.. How do you guys feel about it...is it the grind thats causing people to do this? I think that it ruins the game in my opionion, but belive it or not ALOT of people are doing it, there are tons of free botting prgams for this game, kind of sad

[Defmetal]

I see an insane amount of botting on Istory for sure. One of the "top" linkshells appears to have gotten a lot of their 50s that way. It's super apparent when you see someone crafting for 10+ hours in a row without moving or saying a word to anyone, even their own friends who try to talk to them.

I don't see as much leveling bots as I did back in November 2010 but the crafting bots are crazy, I'd almost be willing to say most of the level 50 crafters probably botted, or at least the people who were 50 before March.

It's really sad.

[ellohwell]

I see an insane amount of botting on Istory for sure. One of the "top" linkshells appears to have gotten a lot of their 50s that way. It's super apparent when you see someone crafting for 10+ hours in a row without moving or saying a word to anyone, even their own friends who try to talk to them.

I don't see as much leveling bots as I did back in November 2010 but the crafting bots are crazy, I'd almost be willing to say most of the level 50 crafters probably botted, or at least the people who were 50 before March.

It's really sad.

50 before march?

I had a r50 crafter class since December without botting lol.

I agree that it's an epidemic though.

[TheVedis]

50 before march?

I had a r50 crafter class since December without botting lol.

I agree that it's an epidemic though.

its bad, but its not as bad as some people are making it out to be
and usualy, most of the bots are all congregating in single shells so that they can try to protect each others reps or vouch for each other(we have one of those shells on besaid too)
and im not talking rmts either

[Jinko]

The reason you don't see as many leveling bots is because leveling is pretty enjoyable now, crafting and gathering on the other hand.. not so much.

[Vawn]

Right at this moment I am crafting. Really, I am just hitting the 'A' button on my 360 pad, the game isn't even up on my screen (this website is). The sound is muted and I'm watching tv. If someone is talking to me, I guess I'm ignoring them. Am I botting? I don't think so, but I probably look like it.

I'm sorry, but this is what crafting is at the current time. I wish they would require me to devote more attention/interest in what I'm doing to level up, but until then, this seems to be the best method for the grind.

[Deminia]

Right at this moment I am crafting. Really, I am just hitting the 'A' button on my 360 pad, the game isn't even up on my screen (this website is). The sound is muted and I'm watching tv. If someone is talking to me, I guess I'm ignoring them. Am I botting? I don't think so, but I probably look like it.

I'm sorry, but this is what crafting is at the current time. I wish they would require me to devote more attention/interest in what I'm doing to level up, but until then, this seems to be the best method for the grind.

I do the same - I craft a ton of the same item over and over and don't really pay attention to things around me until I am done with that series of synths. I am often reading Lodestone or something else online, actually. I usually craft in the same place, often logging in and out right in front of my retainers in the wards. I craft there because there is no spam so I can actually read just my ls chat when I care to glance at the screen.

I have often wondered if people assume I am botting - I am definitely not. Crafting is tedious at times and I highly doubt that nearly as many people are truly botting as are suspected of doing so.

[Manafont]

Right at this moment I am crafting. Really, I am just hitting the 'A' button on my 360 pad, the game isn't even up on my screen (this website is). The sound is muted and I'm watching tv. If someone is talking to me, I guess I'm ignoring them. Am I botting? I don't think so, but I probably look like it.

I'm sorry, but this is what crafting is at the current time. I wish they would require me to devote more attention/interest in what I'm doing to level up, but until then, this seems to be the best method for the grind.

Yet he mentioned doing it for 10hrs, so you sitting there hitting A in the same spot for 10hrs+? doubt that,doubt you are doing it for HOURS at all

[Mirh]

Yet he mentioned doing it for 10hrs, so you sitting there hitting A in the same spot for 10hrs+? doubt that,doubt you are doing it for HOURS at all

Even if you were to be seen doing it for 10 hours, crying bot seems a bit 2003. Most gaming keyboards and devices these days come with macro features that you can hold down or even toggle to repeat a button press, and it's quite reasonable to imagine someone toggling it and walking away for a few crafts, or a few hours. Instead of tapping "A" or Enter or whatever you're using to press "Okay" to everything. At that point, it's the exact same animal.

If there's no real script logic involved (such as in a bot program, which would tell you what to lock onto or not, to move forward and what buttons to press) it's not botting. Just like how wedging a coin into your keyboard to hold a keypress down (anyone who played RF Online knows what I mean) isn't botting.

As far as battle botting goes, I'm not so much under the impression it's that rampant, because it seems that anyone who's botting is known as a botter. If botting was that bad, it'd be an accepted part of the game, like some MMOs with botters. But it's really vile that bot programs are working, kind of makes me miss PlayOnline (almost.)

Add: Botting(by any definition) would be much less common if the game wasn't in such a simpleton state and required real tactics and actually had real difficulty, *especially* for crafting. I thought spamming "Standard Synthesis" wasn't viable anymore, but oh look, it is. :/

[AriaHawksong]

Right at this moment I am crafting. Really, I am just hitting the 'A' button on my 360 pad, the game isn't even up on my screen (this website is). The sound is muted and I'm watching tv. If someone is talking to me, I guess I'm ignoring them. Am I botting? I don't think so, but I probably look like it.

I'm sorry, but this is what crafting is at the current time. I wish they would require me to devote more attention/interest in what I'm doing to level up, but until then, this seems to be the best method for the grind.

I agree entirely. This is all i do when leveling my crafts, and I find it rather depressing. I WANT to enjoy crafting, but they make it hard when it is so mindless and to get exp, all you need to do is press enter/select/x/a/etc and you succeed like 95-100% of the time.

Maybe if they made the crafting system more interesting, or added more challenges to make it challenging but not excessively drawn out, it might become a better system. :/ I originally liked the system due to it's originality in trying to require you to actually interact with the craft, but if I had to say in comparison to another game that did a similar thing, Everquest II did a better job.