botting.

[Jynx]

If you were warped anywhere, you'd end up in neutral position. Repeatedly pressing enter like that will do nothing but lock on to the nearest target and attempting to use your no.1 skill in the bar. If it's not a usable skill in the situation, you'll do nothing at all basically

I'm aware of that, but the GM would clearly see the repeated enter strokes despite not actually being able to craft. It wouldn't take a scientist to decide if you were AFK and trying to craft. If you can't be bothered to even look at your screen while crafting you may as well be botting anyways. Your still crafting without playing the game, I doubt a GM would find any qualms with a suspension or ban on the account "If they even cared about this kind of stuff...wich they don't"

Your furious emails saying "I just wasn't watching my screen" would probably just get a chuckle and a automated reply saying too bad.

[Zeref]

I'm sure when a GM warps you to Jail and your still trying to craft...you might be a bot.

If you get waped by anyone you stop doing whatever it is you were doing, bot or not, your opinion is null and void.

What even more amazing is that you found him!

What's even more amazing is that he took the time to record a five second video of someone sitting, not actively crafting, just sitting there, not a moment of proof that it was a bot, I hate people that assume things simply because an event is out of the ordinary.

[Mirh]

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I never said that crafting in an isolated area or instanced location, like a mission, was proof of booting, but combined with a non responsive player only someone that is hiding their shame wouldn't admit it looks suspect.

Well, at least speaking for own reply, I was trying to suggest that not everyone is paranoid and insecure about what people necessarily think about their choices. You're speaking in absolutes pertaining to a correlation of level of guilt : level of belief to suspicion. You don't have to be shameful or guilty to not find something suspicious. I'd venture to say you have to be partially guilty of it yourself to find it suspicious, since there is no better way to know what looks supicious than to be involved in creating suspicion, yourself.

But that's kind of the point. This isn't an Orwell novel and it's best to just relax and not look at people and worry about whether they are suspicious or not. You're also dealing with foreigners who just don't think like you in the best of times, as well.

Also, don't mistake people quoting parts of your posts as being selective. It's not necessarily ripping it out of context if the entire post is of the precise singular tone and point.

[kensredemption]

Eh...I don't care for statistics either way. All botting does is damage someone's credibility as a "hardcore" player. I'm 32 as a Lancer at the moment, and while the botting may help I find it more fulfilling to get up to the level cap by myself. Not once have I taken part in an EXP party, and in truth it'll be even more monotonous than grinding away solo. Until the new class/job/discipline progression system is in place: I'll just keep killing more sheep, antelopes, monkeys and wolves.

[Dallie]

Bots are always going to be around in a game, period. It is partially SE's fault for making the crafting grind so mind-numbingly boring, but it's not like it's tough to just hit enter while catching up on TV shows.

It just seems to me that SE is aware of prevalent botters, and has simply turned a blind eye until the game goes P2P. I see way too many of them nestled in corners where normal crafters wouldn't be.

[DoctorMog]

Yep, personally, on my days off, I enjoyed watching netflix on my other monitory and fishing for 14 hours straight. (Controller is awesome for fishing btw. Invest before you fish to 50)

Might as well do two things at once.

Watching every sing episode of startrek voyager was a bigger accomplishment than getting 50 fishing XD

[Bluetaro]

Would you guys consider it botting if someone had a turbo controller or macro that would spam enter as long as you manually held the button down?

[Sontawila]

Don't know don't care. Crafting/Gathering leveing in this game is an overkill. A few people like it (very few) but the remaining detest it.

I really don't see that big of a deal and most people just minimize the game and keep hitting the controller button.

And NO you cant tell if the guys is botting by simply talking to them. There could be many reasons they didn't respond (not in the mood, didn't pay attention, mindlessly pressing buttons while watching a movie....etc). If they are not using a tool to access game data then this I don't care and neither should you.

[Bluetaro]

I'm emailing SE to find out their stance regarding a device or program that automates spamming the "enter" button as long as the user is there to hold down the key. Their rules and policy seem to be structured more against "absentee playing" and botting and I feel that as long as you are physically there at the computer holding down the button a turbo controller wouldn't be in violation of this.

To be honest, what's the difference to us if someone is at their computer spamming enter versus holding a button down on a turbo controller?

A bot on the other hand, is a whole different issue because it allows the user to be completely away from his PC and still gain from it. This defeats the spirit of fair play and shouldn't be allowed.

[Vestara_Khai]

This defeats the spirit of fair play and shouldn't be allowed.

It's not allowed. . .