botting.

[Esk]

Everytime i do some crafting, i get tempted..
While the Crafting changes (well more the addition of Materia really as the changes didn't do much at all imo) got the market moving.
It did nothing to improve how boring the grind is unfortunatly.

But i have seen a couple Bots recently, One was funny as I killed the mobs around it except the ones that lead it to Mobs that would kill it , Kinda fun but I've not seen it since I did that.
Point I need to report the 2 names i have..

[TonyMontana]

Very poorly designed crafting system. I know I know its super SHOCKING with how well designed the rest of the game is.

[darkstarpoet1]

no matter the change those that bot will continue to do so. the game can be as challenging as they want to make it and just as involved, but the people that only bot for the advantage of ranking without effort are going to continue doing so. the best thing for them to do is ban the people botting completely.

the new systems put in place benefit the people that botted to cap anyways.

what do i mean? look at materia.... it doesn't matter if you took the time and learned your skill or botted to cap the same percentage applies to both attaching materia. look at crafting..... it doesn't matter if you took the time to craft and collect books and use guild supports anymore since the requirement for those are removed besides when doing local leves. the people that took their time and tried and worked crafting to learn their skills are now just as good a crafter as someone that opened a program and walked away.

the people to blame for this repetative system and the botting that goes on have nobody to blame for it than themselves. if people had went after wanting a new system instead of making recipes easier(which also assists bots) then maybe there would be an engaging system in place then spotting a botter was easier. the changes made to crafting that made things easier for the lazy people that didn't want to invest time in the game actually turns out to be the best thing to happen for people that bot now.

[Tiraelina]

the people to blame for this repetative system and the botting that goes on have nobody to blame for it than themselves. if people had went after wanting a new system instead of making recipes easier(which also assists bots) then maybe there would be an engaging system in place then spotting a botter was easier. the changes made to crafting that made things easier for the lazy people that didn't want to invest time in the game actually turns out to be the best thing to happen for people that bot now.

I don't know where anyone got this general idea that the devs are absolved of any responsibility of serious design flaws. They made it and left it this way and even made afk button spamming possible by changing the default cursor placement. Players are not and cannot hold the gun to their heads to change something, the end result is entirely up to the devs. I don't ever recall requests to be able to watch a full length movie without looking at the game at any point during that and keep crafting without any issue.

[Claire_Pendragon]

Personally, I start mashing the A button on my controller, and watch youtube videos.
I may not have a bot, or turbo controllers, but crafting doesnt feel rewarding, AND attempting to "TRY" only feels like it HURTs more than it HELPs.
Oh noes, it went red, ill hit wait, still red... ill hit wait... still red... standard, success!... oh look its white, fail, still white, critical fail... so on, and so forth.... the abilities/situations are a difference of like 1% and unnoticeable...

Other MMos, u sit back and watch it craft for you. so complaining ppl are botting these, is kinda meh~ to be worrying about.
I dont encourage it, but in the end, looking at what i do, its not rly too much different in this scenario.
I think the ability to mass produce, and the ability to craft faster, can help, and should be there, BUT also give players, doing crafts of their Lv range, the ability to be APART of the craft... actually doing something that's noticeably important.
Give different recipes different 'strategies'. give all those elemental destabilizations some special trick maybe...

A half-assed mini game is worse than the WoW standard of auto making stuff with a click.
A well put together mini game (which this is not) can make things fun and a step forward.
FFXI looked to add typical MMO features, but only half-assed.
Like the create a dungeon of FFXI.
Don't limit yourselves SE.
You are only hurting yourselves.

[Zeref]

I use auto walk a lot and go to get a drink, come back to find my chocobo has been walking into a wall for 30 minutes or so, I wonder if people ever think i'm using a really stupid bot.

[ellohwell]

I use auto walk a lot and go to get a drink, come back to find my chocobo has been walking into a wall for 30 minutes or so, I wonder if people ever think i'm using a really stupid bot.

You can't see other players running on the same spot, they just appear stationary. I realise you probably know this and were just making a joke, but I have to increase my post count somehow, amirite?

[Destain]

I'm almost to my first fifty craft. Crafting is borIng. I do get sense of accomplishment from ranking up and I do feel good when I can help out my LS mates.

There is a huge bottin problem. You can't identify a bot as a player with 100% accuracy, but when I catch players crafting and unresponsive in instanced events or someone doing the same on a random far off point in the map, there is no greater evidence of someone trying to hide their shame. I would really like to be able to call a GM and have them investigate the player. I know there would be a lot of false reports, but people who do it the right way feel wronged otherwise. I am one of those people.

You other achievements in the game dont mean squat if your using gear you made from a botted craft. Shame on you, you WILL get urs.


Happy gamin'

[Zeref]

when I catch players crafting and unresponsive in instanced events or someone doing the same on a random far off point in the map, there is no greater evidence of someone trying to hide their shame.'

Yeah, how about no, I might not spend much time on my weaver, but when I do, I usually tuck away at one of the corners in the black shroud or in an instanced area where i can keep the lag to a minimum, and I'm sure i'm not the only player that avoids area with traffic, just because you made up some small set of rules for yourself doesn't mean the rest of us are included in it.

[Hachiko]

I'm almost to my first fifty craft. Crafting is borIng. I do get sense of accomplishment from ranking up and I do feel good when I can help out my LS mates.

There is a huge bottin problem. You can't identify a bot as a player with 100% accuracy, but when I catch players crafting and unresponsive in instanced events or someone doing the same on a random far off point in the map, there is no greater evidence of someone trying to hide their shame. I would really like to be able to call a GM and have them investigate the player. I know there would be a lot of false reports, but people who do it the right way feel wronged otherwise. I am one of those people.

You other achievements in the game dont mean squat if your using gear you made from a botted craft. Shame on you, you WILL get urs.


Happy gamin'

Some people like to not craft in main cities because it cuts down a lot of the latency both server side (ui lag) as well as improving performance in general. I always prefer to craft in secluded / instanced areas because not only does it go faster for me because the ui is more responsive, but i have less issues with huge lag spikes.

It's cool that you think because you have a 50 you're fit to judge people on this issue, but you need to be better at thinking critically before actually passing judgment.

Once the game makes it more rewarding to actually craft, rather than minimize the game and mash on a single button on a controller, then they can start worrying about botting. But as it is, when the most effective way to exp a DoH job is to do something that mimics the most simple automation (pressing enter, or a button, over and over), there is little room to punish people for doing that and not being responsive.