Raid Dificulty levles - request to SE

[PondHollow]

i think u didnt read my post. i was saying to add meduim mode, on the expense of normal mode. cause normal is pointelss , cleared in matter of 2 hours upon release by casual players ignoring most mechanics.

Can we have a sober discussion of how true or false this is?

Because I thought Alex Normal, as experienced, wasn't easy. To an extent it's made uneasy by lusty people who rush in without discussion, but to an extent, everything can legitimately kill you.

Of course, most people aren't me, but most people aren't you either; so a perspective on the behavior of the actual player-base (not the small amount of people who bother with forums) is important. Not everyone can reliably play for two hours, for example.

[alimdia]

Can we have a sober discussion of how true or false this is?

Because I thought Alex Normal, as experienced, wasn't easy. To an extent it's made uneasy by lusty people who rush in without discussion, but to an extent, everything can legitimately kill you.

Of course, most people aren't me, but most people aren't you either; so a perspective on the behavior of the actual player-base (not the small amount of people who bother with forums) is important. Not everyone can reliably play for two hours, for example.

you only need 1 good healer and 1 good tank for a5,6,7 normal to win.
for a8 u need some good dps but thats it

[Eidolon]

Because I thought Alex Normal, as experienced, wasn't easy. To an extent it's made uneasy by lusty people who rush in without discussion, but to an extent, everything can legitimately kill you.

Well. I think people mix up "You can ignore mechanics" with "You can easily recover from mechanics."


There aren't really any mechanics in Normal mode of the most recent tier that basically can lead to a raid wipe. For example, not stacking for a mechanic = just you die. Not doing your mechanic = just you die. Etc. etc. There's very few mechanics it has that like... try to kill your raid for your mistake? Compare this to savage mode, where frequently, you making a mistake will kill others, and those aren't as recoverable.

That's why it's called easy. Comparitavely, the fact that it's much more possible to carry one guy through makes it a lot more of a joke. The guy on the ground might find it the hardest thing in the world, but the people standing and carrying him kinda discredit that.

quick edit:
Removed the word idiot, replaced it with guy. Honestly, didn't realise how just... bloody conceited that came off until I re-read it in the post. Sorry for that if I offended anyone.

[Alexftw]

Yeah. Go a5 and skip bombs / bird lol. Go a7 and skip jails and hearts. Go a6 and explode the bombs. Go a8 and ignore executor. Then tell me ignoring mechanisms on normal mode doesn't wipe again.

Also back on patch release we were i210. If some people cleared it in under 2 hours it's because they bothered trying to understand strategy(which is quite easy indeed as you said).

Plus some of us were already able to beat a8s dummy while being i210(even if rarely). Gear itself helps but it's not everything(at 230 you should be able to beat it 10 out of 10 tries ^^).

[Nestama]

I wouldn't mind if we kept a 'Easy' and 'Hard' raid, but I feel it would be better if the easy and hard raid weren't in the same setting. Alexander has a story, so it's too late to change that, but imagine if the 'Hard' raid was treated like an 8-man dungeon? What I mean by this, is that you get no story from it. You enter, fight boss, wipe, maybe get loot, leave.

Different bosses, different location...

[Alaina]

Normal was added so the people who don't have the time to commit to a "static" can see the story that they pay for each month.

[CookieMonsta]

Normal was added so the people who don't have the time to commit to a "static" can see the story that they pay for each month.

To be fair, there isn't much of a story to see in Alexander. Its mostly about the gear for now.

[starLivitation]

Normal was added so the people who don't have the time to commit to a "static" can see the story that they pay for each month.

what story? there is none from alexander, a few text based or cut scenes.

if u want story main scenario or hilderbrand side quests.

Yeah. Go a5 and skip bombs / bird lol. Go a7 and skip jails and hearts. Go a6 and explode the bombs. Go a8 and ignore executor. Then tell me ignoring mechanisms on normal mode doesn't wipe again.

Also back on patch release we were i210. If some people cleared it in under 2 hours it's because they bothered trying to understand strategy(which is quite easy indeed as you said).

Plus some of us were already able to beat a8s dummy while being i210(even if rarely). Gear itself helps but it's not everything(at 230 you should be able to beat it 10 out of 10 tries ^^).

yes in a5 u can get hit by 1 bomb. the only case where it would wipe is 2 or more bombs.
jails and hearts? yes maybe u can fail them if ur AFK lol , what is so dificult in those that a 6 year old cant do?

[Alexftw]

what story? there is none from alexander, a few text based or cut scenes.

if u want story main scenario or hilderbrand side quests.




yes in a5 u can get hit by 1 bomb. the only case where it would wipe is 2 or more bombs.
jails and hearts? yes maybe u can fail them if ur AFK lol , what is so dificult in those that a 6 year old cant do?

You'd be surprised at how many people can't even do that ._. (Such as people on a7 with prey taking whole group inside jail somehow and I see people not killing add on a8 all the time). Hell, I even see people dying on roullete bosses somehow.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

what story? there is none from alexander, a few text based or cut scenes.

if u want story main scenario or hilderbrand side quests.

Just to argue schematics, the Alexander side quests/raids technically have a story, regardless of whether or not they're good or how people feel about them.