Would you like an in-game parser?

[LadyCeles]

SSS is a good start. If u dont know ur rotation enough to beat it i cant expect u to have good dps in raid when mechanics are implamented. Parsers are a great tool to see progression and sure as u get more use to the mechanics u will do better dps by putting your dots up anytime you wont be able to attack boss and knowing the good times to use your strong CDS and all the other ins and outs. Maintaining a conistent strong dps is important. But parsers are more then just reading your teams dps and dps progression. You can see your teams damage, what was hurting you, if a mechanic caused damage to others, your limit break, if you missed hits, and more. Thats why it should be in the game but only for the content it is needed for. People that dont want parsers are not going to do savage, so dont put it in duty finder content, kind of like how pvp has its damage totals at the end.

[Preypacer]

SSS is a good start. If u dont know ur rotation enough to beat it i cant expect u to have good dps in raid when mechanics are implamented. Parsers are a great tool to see progression and sure as u get more use to the mechanics u will do better dps by putting your dots up anytime you wont be able to attack boss and knowing the good times to use your strong CDS and all the other ins and outs. Maintaining a conistent strong dps is important. But parsers are more then just reading your teams dps and dps progression. You can see your teams damage, what was hurting you, if a mechanic caused damage to others, your limit break, if you missed hits, and more. Thats why it should be in the game but only for the content it is needed for. People that dont want parsers are not going to do savage, so dont put it in duty finder content, kind of like how pvp has its damage totals at the end.

I still find it rather sad that people whom, ostensibly, consider themselves to be at the top of the/their game, doing the hardest content, are so insecure about their ability to play that they require and even demand a security blanket in the form of "numbers!".

It's right up there with people (often from the same group - the so-called, self-declared "top players") who will readily tell others to "learn to play", while they themselves have to rely on guides and videos in order to successfully clear content. The people who make those videos and guides "learned to play" the game. People who learn things through trial and error are "learning to play". Those who can't succeed without using guides/videos aren't "learning". They're mimicking.

FFXIV wasn't designed with parsers in-game. They're not allowed. Yet the content is surmountable without them. People don't need parsers to succeed. They use them as a crutch; a security blanket. And no, saying "well they are needed because people use them!" is not an argument - it's a non-sequitur; it's a freaking stupid argument. Further, Yoshi-P has concerns about their implementation. Those concerns are, again, well founded and supported by the behavior of people who've used them, and the drama they inevitably cause in many MMOs, across many years. This game already has its share of would-be dictators who are just dying to get their hands on data they can openly weaponize to harass/belittle/berate other players, because they've convinced themselves they are the arbiter of how everyone else should be playing. Some are already doing it, even with the unsanctioned parsers already in use. Again, I'm sure Yoshi-P sees this, and it's at least part of what he's concerned about. If some are already being this hostile without an official parser, what the hell is going to happen if he officially makes them okay, and it becomes open season?

I'm sure there are some who truly would only use them for good use, who wouldn't abuse or misuse them or weaponize the data. Those individuals clearly wouldn't be the problem. It's all those others who would do so that are the concern. So, I'll say it again.. if you want to see a more positive point-of-view emerge about parsers and their use, start by shunning, shaming and ostracizing those within your sub-group (pro-parsers) who would abuse/misuse/weaponize them. Don't sit on the sidelines and say "Ohhh... I'm sure it'll be fine. None of that's going to happen". Don't be the kind of person who thinks "well, I guess it's going to happen, but as long as I get my parser numbers, and can see others', then it's worth it. People will just have to learn to deal with it".

And for those who keep talking as though there's some mandate that other players must "improve their game to meet your own standards", get the f*** over yourself. Seriously. Your self-importance, arrogance, and sense of authority over how others play are not warranted, nor earned.

[Seraphix2407]

And for those who keep talking as though there's some mandate that other players must "improve their game to meet your own standards", get the f*** over yourself. Seriously. Your self-importance, arrogance, and sense of authority over how others play are not warranted, nor earned.

You keep to forget there are people who likes people with common sense. You make it sound like we should all accept people just doing their own shit and go along with it. Many others in here including myself never expects people to play top raid level, I'm not even close to that level, so I don't really know why and how you even come up with this. Many people don't do positionals, doesn't add dots, doesnt buff themselves and expects to be doing primals and raids, seriously? You are okay with that? I'm not gonna lie, the post of yours make it sound like we shouldn't help people at all and just accept they have a huge flaw. Wanna know how ironic your post sounds like? You say this game wasn't designed for parsers and optimize your class or classes, so it should all work like a spinning wheel. If its that easy, how come we still are on about parsers being toxic? In the first place if more people took common sense into learning their class, play it somewhat decent and not random button smash, this wouldn't be a discussion to begin with. The irony in your post is pure amazing

Just gonna put this in here for you

I like how in every single parser thread there have been console players who said they would like an official parser, but the anti parser crowd would deny them such a tool to better themselves (because feelings). So much for looking out for others, how ironic.

M1S for now.

What Ilvl? And good luck!

[Reynhart]

What Ilvl? And good luck!

217, no food, no potion on training. I'm cheap

Thank you.

[Jamillion]

217, no food, no potion on training. I'm cheap

Thank you.

I think SSS ignores food and pots anyway so don't waste them

[KarstenS]

Yet the content is surmountable without them. People don't need parsers to succeed.

I've stopped at this sentence.

Just "most" content is doable without knowing the performance. But there is content where you have to know how you perform and where you need to improve.

Tell me if I'm wrong. But you never have stepped a foot into content like Coil or Alex Savage. I can understand that it is hard to believe when you never got in touch with the more challanging part of the PvE end game. But this doesn't mean it isn't there.

[Reynhart]

Tell me if I'm wrong. But you never have stepped a foot into content like Coil or Alex Savage.

Do you consider Coil as a content where you need a parser ? I tried to not talk about it because I feared people would simply brush it off as "Pfff, Coil was really forgiving when it comes to DPS, so of course a parser isn't needed".
But, if coil is legitimate, then yeah, my static did it all without any parser.
So...still not mandatory

[Seraphix2407]

Do you consider Coil as a content where you need a parser ? I tried to not talk about it because I feared people would simply brush it off as "Pfff, Coil was really forgiving when it comes to DPS, so of course a parser isn't needed".
But, if coil is legitimate, then yeah, my static did it all without any parser.
So...still not mandatory

Actually, back when I just swapped from ps3 to ps4 we had this smn in turn9 with us. His dps was low as hell, I talk about 260 with pet. Having 4-5 meteor's wasnt something you would really want to optimize, pushing them mean you would mostlikely skip enerage too because enrage timer goes off before pull but duration doesn't go through add phase. If you had 5 meteor in phase 1, means you would struggle in last phase, where there are alot more movement in therms of mechanics. So they swapped me to smn after 2 weeks and I did 350 plus. We even skipped meteors.
You could do it but that could also mean overgeared like crazy, or many weeks into second coil where hunts became a thing and could upgrade.

I remember my group did turn 6-7-8 withint 7 hours raid times. Ironicly the one we struggled most with was turn 8 lol. Even if it was a dummy strike boss, lack of gear needed to optimize. I was MNK when this happened before going smn, and my MNK, well was pretty bad on that turn. Found out I did hella crap in that fight till people told me to fix it, since 4 people ran parsers.

[Voltyblast]

FFXIV wasn't designed with parsers in-game

Then why the vast majority of the game's fight are dps checks? Most importantly, raid encounters?

If they weren't I could assure you that parser wouldn't be needed.

[Kezy_Kaatapoh]

And for those who keep talking as though there's some mandate that other players must "improve their game to meet your own standards", get the f*** over yourself. Seriously. Your self-importance, arrogance, and sense of authority over how others play are not warranted, nor earned.

I just want to say, I've been playing for years and you're the most toxic person I've seen. Ironic.