Would you like an in-game parser?

[Khemorex]

It is also possible for California to fall into the Pacific. That isn't going to happen tho. That.... assumption is just completely irrational.

ive heard/know of people kicking others out coz of to low dps ^^ needles to say that an official parser will only make the whole situation even worser than it is now ^^
theres always those people who take it to the maximum in every dungeon with theyre "playstyle", and then get pissed when others dont play on the same level, or are a bit slower for whatever reason ^^

and yes i get pissed when someones afk's or jumps around doing nothing , but thats another story for itself ^^

[TaranTatsuuchi]

I think adding a parser to Stone, Sky, Sea would be a good start to test the waters.

Yeah, I just did this for my first time last night...

I expected a bit more when I finished than... nothing.
I thought I'd at least get a clear time.


Nope, I just had to look over at the time left after it blew up.

[Frowny]

ive heard/know of people kicking others out coz of to low dps ^^ needles to say that an official parser will only make the whole situation even worser than it is now ^^
theres always those people who take it to the maximum in every dungeon with theyre "playstyle", and then get pissed when others dont play on the same level, or are a bit slower for whatever reason ^^

and yes i get pissed when someones afk's or jumps around doing nothing , but thats another story for itself ^^

Not if the parser if the personal one; you only see your DPS.

And I've heard of it too... but it is unlikely and most of the time, they aren't parsed; it is someone in a high level dungeon and not knowing what they're doing (ie. ice mage) so it is much more than "low DPS" even though that's the end result. Usually if you're kicked due to low DPS, it is in a higher duty than just Satasha or something. I'm referring to ones where you have to put in effort, mostly EX trials.

[lulunami]

ive heard/know of people kicking others out coz of to low dps ^^ needles to say that an official parser will only make the whole situation even worser than it is now ^^
theres always those people who take it to the maximum in every dungeon with theyre "playstyle", and then get pissed when others dont play on the same level, or are a bit slower for whatever reason ^^

and yes i get pissed when someones afk's or jumps around doing nothing , but thats another story for itself ^^

If someone were to get kicked from a dungeon for low dps, they must be pressing random buttons to have dps that low. The dps check to complete dungeons is very low. Expert dungeons take like 15 minutes to complete in a good group. In bad groups, they take an hour long.

If you are playing kind of mediocre or below average, you are not going to get kicked from a dungeon. If you are pressing a button once every 20 seconds, then maybe that is why someone kicked a player from a dungeon. This is a team game after all.

[WeekendSoja]

People automatically think that if something is implemented that there would be no internal controls to prevent abuse. Vote kick can be used to really mess people's day, even more so than a parser. Why? Right now a group can get to the second boss and decide that this person is underperforming and kick. Whereas with a parser you can see underperformance right away and address it.

If I were to be kicked I would rather it be at the beginning of the dungeon than after investing more than 10 minutes into the run.

Too bad the idea of a data center that has allowed add-on functionality isn't a thing. It would be interesting on how the spread between people who want full disclosure of their capability and who want their performance masked behind anonymity would be. Which side has more support...that piques my interest. I, for one would transfer to that data center immediately.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

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A few nights ago, I was pugging a12N. The black mage, who was new and was struggling with his movement as a result was kicked after the main tank died to Punishing Heat, with the Warrior refusing to do anything as the boss wiped out the rest of the party. Upon wipe, the blm was kicked, and when I asked why, the Warrior said it was becuz the blm only had 1.6K dps instead of the expected 2k. Never mind we wiped at 4% because the warrior wouldn't pick up the boss. At the time, I had been experimenting with one of my own alt jobs, dragoon, which I hadn't touched since 3.1ish.

[Frowny]

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Which brings us back to a private parser.

Raises the question why the WAR wasn't kicked for not doing his job...

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Which brings us back to a private parser.

Raises the question why the WAR wasn't kicked for not doing his job...

I blame the meta for that. Every war I've ever ran into has said warrior's too squishy to handle any actual tanking and that their main job is to push the deeps.

[SpookyGhost]

ive heard/know of people kicking others out coz of to low dps ^^ needles to say that an official parser will only make the whole situation even worser than it is now ^^

No, actually, it'll be the same. People who are kicking for low DPS now will continue to kick for low DPS then, and those that aren't won't. It'll still be against the rules to harass someone, so anyone who's doing that now will receive the same punishment they would then. Nothing will change except now everyone has access to the information that PC players already do.

[Orbiaus]

It's just weird to me how the game doesn't have a parser. If the party fails dps checks, people need to know what went wrong or else goodbye raid. Parsers are needed because SE made dps checks. Console users need to know what numbers they do. Many times ive seen console people I know do low dps and when they found out their numbers they were shocked. They weren't bad players, it's just there wasn't any feedback to improve. I suffered the same problem because im on console, I cant tweak things because I cant see numbers in real time like PC users get. A personal parser is a good compromise for us. On the subject of abuse, people know your numbers anyway and yeah I've seen people get kicked but it's rare and what do you expect? If people fail a dps check 8 times or more and maybe keep hitting enrage, do you think people won't get fed up? SE added those checks, do they expect the whole raid to disband each time?