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    So people have behaved just as kindly/badly/neutrally with or without it. That doesn't bode well for your idea that parsers suddenly toxify environments or that a lack of parsers, or otherwise blinding players to what/how they're doing, would protect anything about/from the community.
    Just the opposite, actually. Again, I know as I contacted people who play ESO to get their feedback. One does that when one is considering an investment in a new MMO. But I am sure you wont listen to that either or tell me I am "appealing to authority" or some such stupidity.

    Ive made my points , what you choose to do with it is your problem.

    Yet the community always wants them and always finds away to make them work
    Oh yes the logs. You have to MANUALLY upload them, and you can not do so and remain totally anonymous. You need to have the addon to get the logs, no addon no logs. It is still an unauthorised, unsanctioned addon with HEAVY penalties for misuse.

    Sound familiar?
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    Last edited by VelKallor; 06-16-2023 at 10:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Oh yes the logs. You have to MANUALLY upload them, and you can not do so and remain totally anonymous. You need to have the addon to get the logs, no addon no logs. It is still an unauthorised, unsanctioned addon with HEAVY penalties for misuse.

    Sound familiar?
    You didn't have to manually upload them you can live log too
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Just the opposite, actually. Again, I know as I contacted people who play ESO to get their feedback. One does that when one is considering an investment in a new MMO. But I am sure you wont listen to that either or tell me I am "appealing to authority" or some such stupidity.

    Ive made my points , what you choose to do with it is your problem.



    Oh yes the logs. You have to MANUALLY upload them, and you can not do so and remain totally anonymous. You need to have the addon to get the logs, no addon no logs. It is still an unauthorised, unsanctioned addon with HEAVY penalties for misuse.

    Sound familiar?
    Only reason you are against parsers is because your performance is so bad even you yourself would be ashamed.

    Silly rabbit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EderTheBro View Post
    Only reason you are against parsers is because your performance is so bad even you yourself would be ashamed.

    Silly rabbit.
    Perhaps. Now consider, though, a circumstance in which you the majority --for whatever reason-- would not consent to kick them, yet you are likewise unwilling to leave.

    Assumedly, they're already aware of their performance (since, per your assumption here, that's why they'd rather place a gag order on that information).

    What good, then, does the comment on their performance, itself, do, as compared to more useful advice (even if it be a link to the basics) or ways of coordinating with your party to better handle being leeched off of?

    If one were aware they were a leech to the point of trying to influence game policy in their favor, it's not as if calling them that is exactly going to do much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Perhaps. Now consider, though, a circumstance in which you the majority --for whatever reason-- would not consent to kick them, yet you are likewise unwilling to leave.

    Assumedly, they're already aware of their performance (since, per your assumption here, that's why they'd rather place a gag order on that information).

    What good, then, does the comment on their performance, itself, do, as compared to more useful advice (even if it be a link to the basics) or ways of coordinating with your party to better handle being leeched off of?

    If one were aware they were a leech to the point of trying to influence game policy in their favor, it's not as if calling them that is exactly going to do much.
    It sure doesn't do anything but I brought it up because they make statements like these all the time despite having hidden logs lol

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    just to show you've got no experience with harder content therefore your opinions on stuff like the P10s bug are very misinformed
    Wrong. I have raided up incl Mythic back in WOW over eight years.
    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    TOP and the Mythic for BFA are comparable. Same parameters, same disciplines, same methodology and approach.
    Every other guy arguing against or for parsers, fine. But this guy no. Might unironically be some troll (better than me in that case )
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