Would you like an in-game parser?

[Miracle_Diva]

Chronically incapable of addressing the argument that harassment over bad dps is exacerbated by official recognition of a tool that has been misused for the purpose of harassment over and over again in other games. Incredible.

But that's why ToS for harassment is right there, right? Or we're not going to talk about it because it doesn't fit the narrative again? Not so dramatic with it.

[DPZ2]

But that's why ToS for harassment is right there, right? Or we're not going to talk about it because it doesn't fit the narrative again?

Yeah, the ToS has things about harassment, as does every other game out there. That doesn't mean that the game should provide a tool that makes harassment easier.

[Miracle_Diva]

Yeah, the ToS has things about harassment, as does every other game out there. That doesn't mean that the game should provide a tool that makes harassment easier.

The game should provide tools for players to improve when it does nothing to teach them about anything besides what their roles do. And then people go into harder content not expecting a difficulty spike and harass others with their lack of knowledge and free style skill pressing.
You can get a warning or a ban here for emote spam in chat. Imagine how harassment is taken here by GMs.

[Kaurhz]

The harassment will exist regardless.

IMO, as long as they moderate their platform well enough then people wouldn't really have the stones to harass with a parser.

Everything that would exist as a result of a native parser, already exists.

In fact, you may actually find that with a native parser, the contrary might exist... Wherein harassment would actually be less prevalent.

I guess mulling it over, I would like to see them, yes. If for no other reason than to allow those that tackle content to use features native to the game, and for people to reflect on their own performance.

[Shinkuno]

Yeah, the ToS has things about harassment, as does every other game out there. That doesn't mean that the game should provide a tool that makes harassment easier.

You know what makes harassment really easy? A chat. Time to remove that

[VelKallor]

You linked a thread from 2020 where some random player said something and it's not even official post. In a thread where someone else asks about how to set up parcer lmao.
You are right, I do see a pattern here. But it's not about parcer nor harassment.
I guess it's the best you can do.

Date doesnt matter. Nothing has changed since then..

I looked into getting ESO a week ago, spoke to a few people who play now, they confirm that ESO does not have, and will not ever have, any kind of ingame officially sanctioned dps meter.

There are addons, yes, but they are unofficial, unsanctioned, unauthorised third party programs. Use them at your own risk.

But hey if you are that cynical or want to accused me of making this up, go ask anyone who plays. Tell me how that goes.

[Payadopa]

You know what makes harassment really easy? A chat. Time to remove that

You mean like in PvP? lol Yeh, players can't be trusted. Also, it's never gonna happen. Case closed.

[Ivtrix]

I’ve probably weighted in on this before but game doesn’t need one. Not even wow has an official ingame parser.

I think the status quo of it’s up to the player to do the learning and investigate 3rd party sources for higher level optimization is fine.

[Miracle_Diva]

Date doesnt matter. Nothing has changed since then..

I looked into getting ESO a week ago, spoke to a few people who play now, they confirm that ESO does not have, and will not ever have, any kind of ingame officially sanctioned dps meter.

There are addons, yes, but they are unofficial, unsanctioned, unauthorised third party programs. Use them at your own risk.

But hey if you are that cynical or want to accused me of making this up, go ask anyone who plays. Tell me how that goes.

Why would I go and ask someone about it when it's you who are making this statement proved by nothing but "hey I've seen in on the internet somewhere"?
I know that most of your posts can't be taken seriously but I've given you a chance to at least prove your claims and you gave me nothing but words said by someone else in another game entirely.
I asked you to give me example of players getting harassed in savage/ex content, but the problem is - you don't do that content so you have no idea if it happens there or not. You and other forum posters like you who are against something like parcer only bring "oh ye it happens", but I am yet to see any screenshots of this happening in FF14 over a parcer.

[LittleImp]

The toxicity and outright weird behavior that stems from the third-party availability of these tools is already bad enough, and has only gotten worse over the years as plugin usage has become increasingly widespread.

A while back I used to support this kind of thing (probably even in this thread lol), but my interactions with certain parts of the community over the last few years has really cemented a strong distaste for it.