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    VelKallor's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Vel Kallor
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    Kujata
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    People: we want a tool to help us improve in the game we enjoy playing.
    ...that has been proven over time immemorial to be ripe for misuse and abuse

    VelKanor: brings up irrelevant irl experiences and feelings that have nothing to do with the topic.
    Read it again.

    Also, what new have you learnt today?
    I learned about the history of Ghana, did some reading of Aristophanes and learned two new rice recipes. You?

    Also, please show examples of people harassing others over damage in savage/ex content. Oh wait, you don't do that content.
    I dont need to illustrate behaviour that has been commonly observed over different games for the last what...ten years? If it can be abused and misused..it will be.

    The reasons for no dps meters have been stated repeatedly. if you choose not to accept that, then thats your issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    I have the feeling VelKallor would also be one of the fanatics that defended the lack of jumping in 1.0. Everything thats not already in the game is bad and not needed cause they think the developers are gods.
    Didnt play 1.0.
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    Miracle_Diva's Avatar
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    Burning Winter
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    Cerberus
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    ...that has been proven over time immemorial to be ripe for misuse and abuse




    I dont need to illustrate behaviour that has been commonly observed over different games for the last what...ten years? If it can be abused and misused..it will be.
    If you can't support your claim with an evidence, don't make that claim. Because so far, you're all talk and nothing more.
    The problem with anti parcer people that you hide behind the ToS when it comes to third party tools, but completely ignore it when it comes to harassment.
    Convenient isn't it?
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    Sebazy's Avatar
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    ...that has been proven over time immemorial to be ripe for misuse and abuse
    There's far more evidence to show that SE's existing ToS makes griefing people over their DPS just about the second fastest way to get banned, only coming in behind hurling slurs in /shout.

    However, a full bore ACT clone in game isn't the answer anyway as I genuinely don't think it would gain much traction outside of the console crowd.

    Personally I'd much rather see a simple system that notes your average potency per second across the instance, compares it to a historic trend of others running the same instance on the same job and then generates an S to F style ranked score from that. Nothing specific, nothing numeric and shown to that player only.

    It achieves a few key things without room for negativity or fear mongering, the key being that it dangles a carrot nudging people to try a bit harder, play a little better, something the game currently fails to do. It's ignorable and the point isn't to gate anything behind it. Plenty of people see a score and get the instinct to try and improve it and this is aimed squarely at them, plenty of people likely don't even realise they are playing awfully because the game won't tell them and other players aren't allowed to, again, this is aimed at improving that situation.

    More people trying that little bit harder or even just realising that they could potentially be playing better would make the overall DF experience a better one IMO.
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