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    SieyaM's Avatar
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    I can see this being abused pretty easily. If for instance your just running your regular expert roulette and the party sees that you are falling a little short of what top tier savage raiders are doing for DPS, then it could be decided that they want to remove you from the party even though you are still perfectly capable of clearing the roulette. This could also become pretty common place, since people tend to want to hold themselves as better than or as part of an elite group, and removing members from a party that they feel are not performing to their standards, no matter how viable it is in the content they are running, is one way of making them feel that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    I can see this being abused pretty easily. If for instance your just running your regular expert roulette and the party sees that you are falling a little short of what top tier savage raiders are doing for DPS, then it could be decided that they want to remove you from the party even though you are still perfectly capable of clearing the roulette. This could also become pretty common place, since people tend to want to hold themselves as better than or as part of an elite group, and removing members from a party that they feel are not performing to their standards, no matter how viable it is in the content they are running, is one way of making them feel that way.
    The main character of Twitter recently was someone who went and looked up the logs of people they were in expert roulette with and talked trash about them in party chat. They got rightfully roasted by the majority but there were a fair number in the XIV community who didn't see anything wrong with that mentality. Problem is, where can anyone let their hair down in that environment? A raider needs to worry about those numbers in harder content. But if they always have to keep their raid game face on, where do they and anyone else get a chance to relax and maybe derp here and there and be human? It should be in content where those numbers aren't as important but a official parser would bring an end to that because it would be SE endorsing that mentality throughout their game. I've gotten the impression from the topic when it comes up that that's the last thing they want to do. They know the tools are used for the harder content. They won't bust anyone over using them for improvement. But they don't want that to be what the game becomes about. Because there is some content where fun matters more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    I can see this being abused pretty easily. If for instance your just running your regular expert roulette and the party sees that you are falling a little short of what top tier savage raiders are doing for DPS, then it could be decided that they want to remove you from the party even though you are still perfectly capable of clearing the roulette. This could also become pretty common place, since people tend to want to hold themselves as better than or as part of an elite group, and removing members from a party that they feel are not performing to their standards, no matter how viable it is in the content they are running, is one way of making them feel that way.
    Please think this through. You have one of two situations:

    Toxic elitist announces in chat they want to kick another person from duty finder because they do low dps. This will very quickly land them in GM jail.

    Toxic elitist attempts to kick silently which is already possible in its entirety. Nothing is going to change to the current situation then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Yoshi said no to parsers in every language the game is published in both oral and written form.

    I bet he would rather shut down the game than offer parsers. This is a hill he would die on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    Yoshi said no to parsers in every language the game is published in both oral and written form.

    I bet he would rather shut down the game than offer parsers. This is a hill he would die on.
    He did the same thing regarding the ability to have glamours in PvP, among a dozen other things.

    Tfw parsers are simply #17 in the list of the things he said could not ever and would not ever happen because he finally had the misfortune of informing himself.

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    To be clear:

    I don't think there's much benefit to an all-players-shown official version of ACT. ACT is rudimentary at best, with a decent chance of lacking so much context as to be misleading or at least needing several samples to get reliable information out of it where one would otherwise be enough if using a better metric (say, relative potency, instead of raw, crit/dhit-adjusted damage).

    But an actually polished design and its accordant surroundings, deliberately and pretty comprehensively built to be a learning tool? That would absolutely be a boon for the game.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 06-15-2023 at 03:59 PM.