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    Aphrael Amarantha
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    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
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    Unfortunately, doing it over and over again isn't productive for me and thus why it doesn't make it easier for me. Not everyone learns the same way.

    Never said I was a good healer and all I said was that i knew the mechanics. Not for sure why you think that I believe myself a good healer when I know I'm not. That's a pretty big assumption you have going there lol.

    I do agree with you that there is a difference in knowing the mechanics and knowing the fight. I do know the fight is scripted, and as I told you before, I can't memorize that kind of timing, usually I have to write things down. For me though, this game moves pretty fast, faster than I can analyze what is going on at a given moment in most ex battles and that doesn't give me time to look at my sheet and go "uhm what comes next again?" for the next ten seconds.

    Also, you think it shouldn't be an issue to move the boss but maybe some tanks do have issues getting a boss to move. If this wasn't an issue, I doubt you would even come across this problem unless they were trolling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphraelAmarantha View Post
    Also, you think it shouldn't be an issue to move the boss but maybe some tanks do have issues getting a boss to move. If this wasn't an issue, I doubt you would even come across this problem unless they were trolling.
    Well I'm only going out by what you said, you said you know the mechanics, which often for so many people means they know the fight. As for the tanks who cant move the boss, they just cant seem to read the chat or even try. The main issue is what we just talked about, they don't know the fight, which is a often issue with many players in this game along with not doing good enough dmg. Hence why threads like this exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphraelAmarantha View Post
    Never said I was a good healer and all I said was that i knew the mechanics. Not for sure why you think that I believe myself a good healer when I know I'm not. That's a pretty big assumption you have going there lol.
    Healing is a lot harder overall, because the other classes are very limited in their ability to correct mistakes. If someone screws up and gets hit by a fireball in O1s, only the healer can save them and its a split second decision. Maybe its a healer/dps + tank argument-the latter really have it easier due to it being self-contained more.

    If someone goes wrong way with thunder mark, it's easily doable to recover.
    It's harder than you think. The reaction time is pretty small because it can cascade to kill the next person even if you heal it, since it leaves them at low hp enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    Healing is a lot harder overall, because the other classes are very limited in their ability to correct mistakes. If someone screws up and gets hit by a fireball in O1s, only the healer can save them and its a split second decision. Maybe its a healer/dps + tank argument-the latter really have it easier due to it being self-contained more.



    It's harder than you think. The reaction time is pretty small because it can cascade to kill the next person even if you heal it, since it leaves them at low hp enough.
    I usually throw asylum and medica2. So if it happens I use instant aoe heal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    I usually throw asylum and medica2. So if it happens I use instant aoe heal.
    I usually save asylum for the ukehi after it, since it hits multiple times. More often I just have to swift or precast medica or even c3 to get people up after a flubbed bolt, and then a fast cure to the next marked target. But either way you need to react pretty fast to read that the person doesn't see he has the marker, and then act correctly in a matter of seconds. It's not really easy to do this, especially after the sixth run.

    If these huge mistakes (including a mostly dead group) can be overcome by self-proclaimed casual healers I don't think the argument can be reasonably made that the 4.0 ex primals are not faceroll.
    ..if you are farming ex primals when they are relevant, to the point where you feel ok solo healing them, you aren't a casual healer, good lord.
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    Last edited by RiyahArp; 12-12-2017 at 02:44 PM.