Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
And this is why you ignore raiders in terms of difficulty in discussions. Thordan was designed to give players struggling with A3 a slight edge up, but that meant he was balanced in the context of people who completed the two entry fights of the hardest non-ultimate raid this game had. Shin can still be very hard despite being weaker than that, but with raiders they tend to almost always downplay how hard something is. To the high end players, everything is easy.
Actually, that's precisely why players who do end game content consistently shouldn't be ignored in a discussion regarding difficulty. I see how it could get out of hand, but excluding the most relevant group of players from the discussion is silly, especially when one of them is giving great feedback about that same discussion.