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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonsilt View Post
    Maybe they want some speedruns/faster clear time. ilvl330 requirement is already pretty low, it's not 340.
    If people want things to die faster, they put higher ilvl requirement for "x" duty.
    330 is pretty high for something that drops 320 gear, though.

    The main reason I brought it up is for what you said: they're doing it because they want higher DPS. It's simply a less accurate way of doing that than being able to measure actual DPS is, so it winds up cutting off someone in 325 who has mastered their rotation but allows someone in 330 who hasn't. I'm having a hard time understanding why the anti-parser crowd considers that *better*.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    330 is pretty high for something that drops 320 gear, though.
    Honestly, at this point most people can easily collect full 330 Creation gear.
    I haven't played for 4 months(since mid-august,came back like a week ago) and my BRD/MCH is at ilvl 336 from that time.
    TL;DR ilvl 330 is "low" for your "main" class.
    Plus there Ivalice, one free ilvl330 + one 340 upgrade every week.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    It's simply a less accurate way of doing that than being able to measure actual DPS is, so it winds up cutting off someone in 325 who has mastered their rotation but allows someone in 330 who hasn't. I'm having a hard time understanding why the anti-parser crowd considers that *better*.
    This, actually, is not parser-related and exist because there's "no official parser".
    People like to play it safe, so they put a high ilvl requirement, so that they'l get mostly people, who "main" that class. Because if you "main" X class, you should be far higher in ilvl, than 330, even if you just collect Creation gear + Ivalice + those upgrades to 340. (aka doing zero Savages)

    p.s. I also got 4-5 340 upgrades items from Hunts. Forgot about those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonsilt View Post
    Honestly, at this point most people can easily collect full 330 Creation gear.
    I haven't played for 4 months(since mid-august,came back like a week ago) and my BRD/MCH is at ilvl 336 from that time.
    TL;DR ilvl 330 is "low" for your "main" class.
    Plus there Ivalice, one free ilvl330 + one 340 upgrade every week.
    One a week isn't a lot when you play multiple jobs. My PLD isn't 330 yet, but my WHM and SCH are both over it (but only 334, so not by that much). To suggest I don't know how to do the fight on one and do know on the other would be rather odd, since I got my first clear on the PLD. Yet, that's what these item level restrictions effectively do.


    This, actually, is not parser-related and exist because there's "no official parser".
    People like to play it safe, so they put a high ilvl requirement, so that they'l get mostly people, who "main" that class. Because if you "main" X class, you should be far higher in ilvl, than 330, even if you just collect Creation gear + Ivalice + those upgrades to 340. (aka doing zero Savages)

    p.s. I also got 4-5 340 upgrades items from Hunts. Forgot about those.
    It is parser related though, since an argument anti parser people use is that having parsers would lead to discrimination on the basis of DPS. We already have that, we just have it on the basis of assumed DPS using ilvl as a proxy, which isn't exactly accurate.

    I mean, it's a lot more useful to be able to say "we hit the enrage because you're doing 1000 DPS", rather than "we hit the enrage, must be because 325 gear isn't good enough for this fight."
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