Would you like an in-game parser?

[Zeonsilt]

I always chuckle when I see a minimum 330 Lakshmi.

Maybe they want some speedruns/faster clear time. ilvl330 requirement is already pretty low, it's not 340.
If people want things to die faster, they put higher ilvl requirement for "x" duty.

[Tridus]

Maybe they want some speedruns/faster clear time. ilvl330 requirement is already pretty low, it's not 340.
If people want things to die faster, they put higher ilvl requirement for "x" duty.

330 is pretty high for something that drops 320 gear, though.

The main reason I brought it up is for what you said: they're doing it because they want higher DPS. It's simply a less accurate way of doing that than being able to measure actual DPS is, so it winds up cutting off someone in 325 who has mastered their rotation but allows someone in 330 who hasn't. I'm having a hard time understanding why the anti-parser crowd considers that *better*.

[Zeonsilt]

330 is pretty high for something that drops 320 gear, though.

Honestly, at this point most people can easily collect full 330 Creation gear.
I haven't played for 4 months(since mid-august,came back like a week ago) and my BRD/MCH is at ilvl 336 from that time.
TL;DR ilvl 330 is "low" for your "main" class.
Plus there Ivalice, one free ilvl330 + one 340 upgrade every week.

It's simply a less accurate way of doing that than being able to measure actual DPS is, so it winds up cutting off someone in 325 who has mastered their rotation but allows someone in 330 who hasn't. I'm having a hard time understanding why the anti-parser crowd considers that *better*.

This, actually, is not parser-related and exist because there's "no official parser".
People like to play it safe, so they put a high ilvl requirement, so that they'l get mostly people, who "main" that class. Because if you "main" X class, you should be far higher in ilvl, than 330, even if you just collect Creation gear + Ivalice + those upgrades to 340. (aka doing zero Savages)

p.s. I also got 4-5 340 upgrades items from Hunts. Forgot about those.

[Tridus]

Honestly, at this point most people can easily collect full 330 Creation gear.
I haven't played for 4 months(since mid-august,came back like a week ago) and my BRD/MCH is at ilvl 336 from that time.
TL;DR ilvl 330 is "low" for your "main" class.
Plus there Ivalice, one free ilvl330 + one 340 upgrade every week.

One a week isn't a lot when you play multiple jobs. My PLD isn't 330 yet, but my WHM and SCH are both over it (but only 334, so not by that much). To suggest I don't know how to do the fight on one and do know on the other would be rather odd, since I got my first clear on the PLD. Yet, that's what these item level restrictions effectively do.

This, actually, is not parser-related and exist because there's "no official parser".
People like to play it safe, so they put a high ilvl requirement, so that they'l get mostly people, who "main" that class. Because if you "main" X class, you should be far higher in ilvl, than 330, even if you just collect Creation gear + Ivalice + those upgrades to 340. (aka doing zero Savages)

p.s. I also got 4-5 340 upgrades items from Hunts. Forgot about those.

It is parser related though, since an argument anti parser people use is that having parsers would lead to discrimination on the basis of DPS. We already have that, we just have it on the basis of assumed DPS using ilvl as a proxy, which isn't exactly accurate.

I mean, it's a lot more useful to be able to say "we hit the enrage because you're doing 1000 DPS", rather than "we hit the enrage, must be because 325 gear isn't good enough for this fight."

[HyoMinPark]

Maybe they want some speedruns/faster clear time. ilvl330 requirement is already pretty low, it's not 340.
If people want things to die faster, they put higher ilvl requirement for "x" duty.

Well, for the i340, unless you have cleared V3S, you can’t be full i340, because your weapon will either be the i330 Lost Allagan or the i335 Shinryu weapon (that is, until they allow the Rabanastre coin to be traded in for the Roborant which will probably happen in the patch they’re doing this coming Tuesday). If people are putting up Susano parties with a minimum requirement of i340, they’re dumb. I’m sorry, not going to sugarcoat that.

Regardless, Tridus was just using it to show that discrimination already occurs in this game, and we don’t have a sanctioned parser. She was saying she can’t understand why anti-parser people think it’s okay for people to use PF for discrimination/why the anti-parser crowd conveniently ignore that kind of discrimination, but then get uppity about parsers and discrimination. Discrimination happens regardless.

All that being said, I’ve seen people in full 320 do a far better job than someone in 340 DPS-wise, so the ilevel requirement for “better DPS” or for “things to die faster” isn’t exactly going to give people what they want when they set ilvls so high. Though, I do get amused when I see Shinryu learning parties for ilvl 330 or higher. Learning parties, mind you. Not farms. I don’t care what a person’s ilevel is, so long as they pull their own weight. That’s all I want in a PUG group.

[Zeonsilt]

If people are putting up Susano parties with a minimum requirement of i340, they’re dumb. I’m sorry, not going to sugarcoat that.

Haven't seen any of those, though.
Pretty much all parties locked at 330 or 335 these days(Chaos DT).
It is indeed dumb to make it "340 only", but "330" is pretty "meh" at this point, it's already December. Even Ivalice was released in October.

All that being said, I’ve seen people in full 320 do a far better job than someone in 340 DPS-wise, so the ilevel requirement for “better DPS” or for “things to die faster” isn’t exactly going to give people what they want when they set ilvls so high.

It's impossible to know about that until the actual combat part starts (and only if you parse). Unless you know them personally or that person got some FF logs available on another class.
I've seen a lot of those too.

Imagine you got a full 320 party, you will not know who underperform in that one and the only way to know that is "to parse".
Otherwise, it's "ggthxbye" and time to create another PF with different people. That's why people like to play it "safe".

p.s. Not too many people parse in FF XIV, especially when it's "PC exclusive" feature.

[akaneakki]

p.s. Not too many people parse in FF XIV, especially when it's "PC exclusive" feature.

A warrior outdpsed 3 dps in v1s yesterday and only beaten by 20 dps by a drg who never died too. Ilvl requirements doesn't do a huge difference as people say it is. People often put higher ilvl for ''more'' dps. This wont even give you any more good dps unless youre a good player. Maybe a slight dps increase if you are not as good.