Would you like an in-game parser?

[HyoMinPark]

You read only half of it, as said before i never said they ALL do discrimation using a parser. Just saying that a lot do. And i'm against encouraging that. I don't need exemple. It would be pointless, if you ask for exemple, next you can also say they're made up. Lastly i wouldn't talk about it if only seen once, if that were the case i would only have thought that the person was an idiot and whatever.

I read your entire post, but only responded to the second paragraph; that’s not me “reading only half of it”.

You’re using anecdotes and trying to pass them off as factual. You are saying you see harassment and that it is “bad enough as it is” (the rate of harassment), but you are using anecdotes as a basis, and to fuel that argument. Just as I use anecdotes when I counter and say, “no, it is not as bad as you think it is”. The anecdotes prove nothing, and therefore cannot be used as a logical/factual basis for why parsers should or should not be allowed. Again, don’t blame the tool because someone uses it in the wrong way, and that is what it seems like you are doing.

The party finder example was just an example of how players already “discriminate” in this game by setting PF limitations. It isn’t a made-up example. I also never asked you to provide any “examples”—I asked you to prove with quantitative, hard numbers that harassment is pervasive. You can’t argue with numbers, so if you did prove them and they were solid, then I would concede.

The only thing I’m saying are “made up” are these “statistics” people have been posting in this thread and trying to pass them off as “hard facts” as to why parsers should not be implemented. See the individual that said “for every one person using a parser for ‘good’, there are three others using it to be tools” a few pages back, and then resorted to accusing any and all who disagreed with them of “thumbs up circle jerking” (whatever the hell that is). There is no factual basis behind that statistic—it’s as made-up as this one: 75% of all statistics are all made up. I’m not saying that your personal experiences are “made up” or not true, but that they are anecdotal. And anecdotes =/= facts. That’s why they aren’t used in any sort of solid arguments and/or debates, because they are personal and skewed, not objective.




Discrimination will exist with a parser or without a parser. There’s no way around it.

[LyraKuroneko]

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Fine. Take it however you want then. Seems pointless to argue.
I don't want a parser in this game. The end.

[KaivaC]

Fine. Take it however you want then. Seems pointless to argue.
I don't want a parser in this game. The end.

Fortunately, there's many other players who do want an official parser. At the very least, I'm happy Square decided to adopt a 'don't ask, don't tell' policy. In all my time in Savage, I have yet to be harassed or kicked for DPS numbers, even when the MT is pulling 4500+ on damage and I'm doing about 3500. I don't know where people are saying parsing equals harassment, maybe that was with the Alex runs, but I personally have yet to see it myself.

Side note: I'm on PS4, so I always assume I'm being parsed in high-end duties. Still haven't run into any issues over my damage numbers. In fact, I tend to ask what they are so I can figure out what I'm not doing to break into 4k damage territory.

[Kyuuen]

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And on the same side of that coin you also can't disprove it either. You can say the burden of proof lies with the claimant; which is true, but when people claim there's not enough proof of harassment, it is also demonstrably false, as absence of proof does not equate proof of absence. The only side that can provide any sort of factual numbers for or against either case is the XIV team. But utilizing simple observations of complaints in the mistreatment of certain features; such as the Party Finder and Mentor channels, that turn up on the forums is justification for concern.

Those are feature's meant for making parties and people searching for help respectively. And yet seem to be points of contention, vitriol, and at times harassment if we follow some of the forum complaints. It's not much of a stretch to think or even make claims that a group wide parser will be mistreated. A good tool in the hands of those that know what it's for and how to handle the information, a weapon in the hands of others that don't, and it's not worth the chance of alienating parts of the community moreso than what it is.

A personal parser; which can still go sideways, is better than no parser. A group wide parser is inviting the potential for a lot of unneeded strife.