Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
As fot the "no evidence" replies, come on. How many times:

1. have you done a dungeon that takes five-ten more minutes over the average time?
2. Wiped multiple times in a hard mode trial
3. vote abandoned a 24 man run

in your daily play? If everyone is so bad, this should be pretty common, right?
I think you're missing the point. The skill floor for a dungeon is so low that if you've got 2 decent players you can clear virtually anything, especially if at least one of those players is the healer. That means in any given dungeon run at least one if not two or three players can be seriously underperforming and you'll still clear just fine.

In terms of a HM trial I've abandoned 2 Shin normal runs ever. Every other run I've cleared. As this is widely regarded as the hardest content in Trial Roulette I feel like it's the best measure of 8am trial completion. I have had my cohealer literally do nothing for the whole fight more than once. I know this might seem like bragging but it isn't because I'm the first to admit I'm not very good - I've never even been past O2S. Again, exceedingly low skill floor as you can literally clear the fight with someone not participating.

Even 24 man raids are a joke now. The other night a friend and I had an experience in Rabanastee where our tank was, essentially, a training dummy for the boss. I tanked our Azure Guard on WHM. No disband.

Then you hit the brick wall of Shin EX where I have had multiple people drop group for while I'm explaining mechanics because 'this just seems too complicated"...

... seems like we maybe need a bridge here, huh? Because when you go from fights you can mostly AFK (and rest assured people do) to fights where not paying attention kills you and your party you're gonna have a bad time.

In conclusion - bad players are everywhere. You're playing with them every day. You might not notice without a parser but in an average day of roulettes you're almost guaranteed to see more than one. They slip by because they don't need to get any better to clear the content they're doing then rage when something like the Vualt or RM comes around.