Would you like an in-game parser?

[akaneakki]

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You know whats funny?
This guy here has outperformed a lot of players with 340 ilvl, look at his gear.. He did 2.7k dps there and he also mitigated well plus he wasnt in tank stance like... 98% of the time..It's a shame really that this player could do that with that crappy gear. On top doing better mitigation and taking a lot less damage than most tanks I've seen in savage. I need someone here whos an anti parser person and pro tank stance players to explain how he took less damage on busters etc and how he did better dps with a shitty weapon like that as well.

[Dzian]

No offense taken. What I was trying to say is that thanks to parsing we have then YouTube videos teaching you rotations and Maximizing damage. So , without a parser we wouldn't have any of those videos online.

Thanks to parsing we can improve our rotations and damage we inflict on mobs.

Basically we DO need a PERSONAL parser for us to improve and get better. Because PC user are having the upper hand by finding out things that PS4 users can't (bard IJ snapshot for example)

A personal in game parser is needed to improve

No we don't. Because as your earlier post said in agreement with mine. Party composition makes up a very significant chunk of your damage. And to make any accurate measure of your performance from a parse you need that information.

So any accurate parse can only be a group one and NOT a personal one.

If that ninja in your party ups your dps by 200. And that ast ups your dps by 200. And that bard ups your dps by 200. Then all of that information needs to be represented in a parse if a player is to get an accurate result. If it isn't included players are going to see huge variations in there dps without any explanation as to how or why because all that information will be missing so they have no idea where that dps comes from even though it is theres

And thus the information a personal parse would give them would be useless. because they wouldn't be able to account for where all the dps came from and why.

Don't get me wrong. Full parsers can help players improve a lot when used correctly. But a personal parse that doesn't tell you about the rest of the group is useless because as we've both already said. Party composition and the other members have a very significant impact on your dps. So you need to see that information as without it any numbers you get are useless which is why I said in response to this comment...

No in game parser unless it only shows your dps and nobody elses and only to you.

That it was impossible to implement an accurate parse like this. to be accurate you must have ALL the parties information

[Sebazy]

And thus the information a personal parse would give them would be useless. because they wouldn't be able to account for where all the dps came from and why.

This very discussion has been done to death over the logs rankings already, there are a few solutions, some more elegant than others.

First up, at the risk of sounding like a stuck record here, my suggested approach of measuring potency per second rather than damage per second gets around this, you can still incorporate personal modifiers and combos whilst isolating it from cross party buffs to keep things simple and easy to understand whilst not misleading people once they start optimising within a static.

Secondly, an alternative to the above is to focus more on a players APM, this is actually the first thing many people will look at when going over logs and is a very useful figure for quickly (if rather vaguely) comparing your performance to someone else's.

Thirdly, if keeping the figure entirely person is key, simply subtracting cross party modifiers is another way to go. Of course this means the numbers will be incorrect and misleading for someone trying to optimise themselves within a static. Not a good solution imo.

Lastly, the approach logs took in the end, just present it as is and let people do with it as they will.

[Ayer2015]

I think the devs have been pretty clear that dps meters are not going to be implemented into the game ever, and have even explained why.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I think the devs have been pretty clear that dps meters are not going to be implemented into the game ever, and have even explained why.

They also once said Paladin will never block magic. Time and opinions change. Furthermore, the explanation they did offer isn't inherently accurate just because they say it. Frankly, it's a bit silly since everyone and their mother knows raiders have ACT running.

[Ayer2015]

They also once said Paladin will never block magic. Time and opinions change. Furthermore, the explanation they did offer isn't inherently accurate just because they say it. Frankly, it's a bit silly since everyone and their mother knows raiders have ACT running.

Did you watch the Live Letter Part XXXV. Its not going to happen. The devs have been very consistent regarding their stance regarding official dps meters, and even 3rd party being against the ToS. I think the attitude on the forums around dps affirms that people would be jerks if dps meters were officially accepted.

But hey, hold out hope if you want.... I don't see it ever happening.

[Jijifli]

Did you watch the Live Letter Part XXXV. Its not going to happen. The devs have been very consistent regarding their stance regarding official dps meters, and even 3rd party being against the ToS. I think the attitude on the forums around dps affirms that people would be jerks if dps meters were officially accepted.

But hey, hold out hope if you want.... I don't see it ever happening.

Personal Housing

While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

Because everything said is 100% correct all the time and companies don't cough anything out that is incorrect or false. Never.

[Ayer2015]

Because everything said is 100% correct all the time and companies don't cough anything out that is incorrect or false. Never.

Ok, what have the devs stated regarding their stance on dps meters which is incorrect then?

[Jijifli]

Ok, what have the devs stated regarding their stance on dps meters which is incorrect then?

That it'll apparently start getting people harassed for damage numbers despite how it already happens, parser or not. I can't even tell a SMN to use dots without being called a parsing elitist. No numbers.

And honestly, after the statements of other things (Block shouldn't work with magic, because it wouldn't make sense. We can't have play dead, because people'll use them sexually like the M Lala one. Housing will not take up FC houses.)

[Krotoan]

This thread is not to debate the worth of parsers. It's a simple poll to like posts. It may be bumped, but DO NOT discuss the pros or cons of parsers. There are a substantial amount of parser threads.

Please like the appropriate posts. You may like more than one:

.. poor OP.. nobody read the first page.