Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
Why can it not be both? Parses have been invaluable to my own self improvement since I started raiding last tier. At the same time, I do not appreciate my time wasted by people who join parties clearly labeled farm/weekly clear and have no idea what they're doing. A few mistakes or less than stellar damage? Sure. I couldn't care less if you can't top 5,000. In fact, I had a Dragoon last night who was averaging just below 4k at roughly 330 or so. Had no issues with him whatsoever. I take issue with the aforementioned Warrior. Why wouldn't we want to "lower frustrations?" Once again, I wouldn't go into a learning party and expect everyone to be performing flawlessly nor do I expect oranges in a farm. What I do think is reasonable is for me on Dark Knight to not out-dps a Bard or Monk.
It can be both but I'd rather focus on personal parser conversations leaning toward overall player skill improvement and a smaller gap between low and high skilled players instead. Personal parsers have the potential to help in that regard and I think this kind of conversation is the most beneficial thing to bring to the table if you want to bring parsers into the game or sway an opinion. Maybe its not what your saying, its how your saying it. Why focus on the fact that you are using it to single players out? That player may have been better in the first place with a personal parser, even if not at least you'd know at that point. I feel like I've said this to you before in this thread or another.

Bottom line, a conversation about removing problem players to save you some time doesn't sound nearly as appealing as a conversation about how he may have benefited from the use of a personal parser and been a better player from the start if the goal is to bring one into the game. Just my opinion anyway.