Quote Originally Posted by Mycow8me View Post
Sorry taika, I'm not bothering with you this time around but feel free to disagree.
Many times the people that are "pro-parser" start mentioning the "weeding out" is in response to posts that argue that players will get flamed for doing tragically low DPS, and that even they doing less than their combo have the right to clear content without being poked at for not doing a thing you need just one finger for correctly. Sorry, but if the anti-parser crowd brings up an argument, it's clear that the other people will talk about it, too.

Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
I know that having parse will fix this issue in the long run. But it will cause a lot of harassment and kicks because people can be vocal about it. Less skilled players will try to avoid DF/PF and this is not good for queue time or self-improvement.
If it would be the DPS that would avoid the queue, then it would actually be very good for the queue time. There is a massive excess of DPS caused by various things, and anything that would remove those excess DPS would speed up queue times. And if the ones left would mostly be the ones confident in their ability to do at least averagely, then the content would be cleared faster.
Then again, everything here is set behind duty finder, really, so people WILL use it, whether it'll cause them gripes or not.

Also, sorry, but anything short of high-difficulty content is not going to provide a lot of self-improvement. Reason for that being that those are group-based duties and unless your performance have a major impact on them individually, there is little you can gain from them. A tank or a healer have more opportunities to get better, but DPS do not. Even if they will fail, the group will still go past it. If they don't care about doing the content fast, why would they think they need improving?

What is necessary to improve is a SOLO content that is DIFFICULT, thus trying the individual player, where it is all about his skills (or lack of them thereof). A very difficult content can lead to wipes due to a single persons failure as well, but the responsibility is being hazy often, and when it's not, then it's due to mechanics that don't help getting better DPS either (like dodge this or stand there).

Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
People can argue that adding a parse will help. Well, It will be more of a shock when a dps sees that he is competing with a tank.. and it is shown publicly to everyone. No one wants to look bad.
Yes, no one wants to look bad (actually, there are some people that do, but there are quite many that just don't care). That's why they will try to get better once they see they do poorly. It's called a "shock therapy". It's used in many situations, and so long as it's done properly, it is the quickest and most effective way to get better. The drawback is clear however that people with certain social or mental issues, like social anxiety or depression, may go the other way around. But hey. The first one is what I have, and I begun playing MMO's and begun participating on forums to try and get over it (or lessen its burden), which I managed to a certain degree. The latter is something that requires medical attention as well. No one will help anyone unless they try and help themselves first.